Originally Posted by sweetandsalt
Guides are a thorny issue.
You must have been reading some sexy loops stuff. &.......
While I agree with some of that, like most things there are trade offs. Bigger loop size in a guide reduces the line slap friction effect. And not in a small way. Rod maker maker magazine had an article many years back where the made two rods identicle in every way except guides. The rod (casting) with the bigger guides out cast the smaller guided rod by a serious amount.
As far as smaller guides go on a fly rod, it does help recovery time and counter flex. If you are a very good caster you can to a fair extent control counterflex. Smaller guides will benefit a less 'talented' caster.
Like I say, there is a trade off in which size guides you use. I think it depends on the style and level of the caster in what size guides you should use.
Speaking of rods with tiny guides, it got nice enough today to cast the flying pigs 8 wt. I recently got. It has really tiny snake guides and a really large loop tip. Something I always use on rods I build. It is a really fast rod with a recovery you have to see to believe.
Unfortunately the wind was blowing right at me down my casting lane. Not a horrible wind but it would have been nice if it had been calm. Still love the rod.
As soon as I get used to casting a rod that's this fast (Fastest action I have ever cast) with a long belly line (73 foot head I think) I should be able to easily cast my best distance ever.
sweetandsalt, what's your opinion of the large loop top? I always use them but it's not based on any kind of actual research.