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Old 03-10-2013, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: My real rod weights

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...pretty close to 90 degrees from the straightest visual line...
Really funny you should mention that number (90 deg.). That's where the spine was on at least one section of the first two rods I looked at. I thought I must be doing this wrong. But, no matter how many times I did it, at least one of the pieces always came up the same, with the spine at 90 deg. to the guides.
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Really funny you should mention that number (90 deg.). That's where the spine was on at least one section of the first two rods I looked at. I thought I must be doing this wrong. But, no matter how many times I did it, at least one of the pieces always came up the same, with the spine at 90 deg. to the guides.
Worst possible spot to have it. How does the rod line up when all the parts are together? The easiest way to do the whole rod is hold it by the tip, put your thumb on your other hand across the blank, holding it up, as close to halfway down as you can reach. Roll the rod over your thumb and you can tell instantly where the spine is.
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Default Re: My real rod weights

Latest test.

I took one of the rods I mentioned earlier, the Echo3 (7'6", 3 wt, ERN=3.12).

I found the spine on each section:
Tip section: 45 deg CCW from guides
2nd section: 45 deg CW from guides
3rd section: aligned with guides
Butt section: aligned with guides

Whole rod: aligned with guides

I'll look at the other rods later.
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Here are a few inexpensive rods that I have tested over the years.

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Note: A few of the listed weights in this chart may be off, as some / most are cheaper used / or older rods, where listed weights were not always easily obtainable. And some had dual ratings, in this case I just grabbed the rating off the blank that was closest to my result in testing.

I have a few more rods to test, that I have only lined up by feel, when picking up a new rod, I usually forget the number that is on the blank, and try to match it up to a line just by feel, only later do I test using measurements. I found that many of my hand test often coincide with what I would expect once known measurements get put in place for both the blank, and grain of the line. (But not always).

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Just because CCS indicates that a rod drops between certain perameters in power and action DOES NOT mean that the rod IS that prescribed weight. Although CCS gives us a starting point, there are many other factors which determine what and why a rod is marked with its specific weight line. Factors like material the rod is made with, weight of the rod, balance of the rod all make a huge difference in how a rod should be marked. How much line is the rod designed to carry? How fast is the recovery of a particular rod? What is the frequency? CCS does not cover any of these factors thus in reality is a flawed system from the beggining. Although I believe CCS gives us a way to determine the basic intrinsic power of a rod. It certainly is wayyyy to flawed to give exact specifics of how a rod should be marked regarding weight of lines. Use it as a tool for a starting point and nothing more.
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Pegboy1, your comments are 100% accurate. The only thing CCS provides is a measurement contained within limited variables, as your post indicated, there are other variables that also should be taken into consideration. What it does help provide, is a baseline measurement to help an angler determine what the other subjective variables may also include.
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