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Old 01-15-2013, 04:49 AM
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If a guy had about $500 for a new 5wt rod, what would you get? I generally fish small to medium size streams and rivers. I know this is a very broad question but I'd just like to know what everyone has experience with in a rod for that price. Thanks in advance for any info.
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:54 AM
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That would be an easy question for me : Orvis Superfine Touch.
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I'd watch ebay for a Z-axis or One. But if you want to go new; the Sage VXP is in that price range.
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Winston Boron B2t or B3x on eBay
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I'd watch ebay for a Z-axis or One. But if you want to go new; the Sage VXP is in that price range.
I like a little more moderate action in a 5 weight, so I'd look for a Sage ZXL on eBay or on closeout. There are still quite a few around, but they are starting to get scarcer. I've seen them go on eBay in the $350-$400 range, a bit higher if you buy from a retailer at a clearance markdown.

Another possibility if you can find one is the Orvis Hydros, discontinued a year ago. They were built on the same blank as the first-generation Helios, but with slightly less spiffy hardware. The 8' 6" or 9' 5 weight mid-flex might be a good choice for your kind of fishing. Originally retailed at $500, now $250 - $350 if you can find them new, less if used.

If you're willing to be patient, the first-generation Helios is also about to be discontinued, but the big markdowns haven't been taken yet.

As discussed on another thread, the Winston GVX's are being upgraded with nicer hardware and the current inventory is being discontinued and discounted. Original price $500, now available around $350 while supplies last. Or you can pay full sticker price for the upgraded version.
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If a guy had about $500 for a new 5wt rod, what would you get? I generally fish small to medium size streams and rivers. I know this is a very broad question but I'd just like to know what everyone has experience with in a rod for that price. Thanks in advance for any info.
Pickle - You're going to get a ton of different responses and combinations. I know what I would get, but that may mean nothing to you. There are slow rod fans, fast rod fans, short rods, long rods, cheap rods (hey you could get two!) and expensive rods, used rods, new rods, Sage fans, Orvis fans, Winston fans... I could go on.

Which rod would I buy? Probably a closeout Sage ZXL 590-4. Why, because I have two other 5 weights and that fits a small niche in my quiver that's missing in a 5 weight. How that would translate to what you need in your quiver or the type of fishing you like to do...
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Fishing small to medium size streams you could go with an 8 1/2'/#5 instead of a 9' model. A Scott A4 at $395 comes to mind as a fine choice in this category if you intend to buy a new rod. Like others, I expect Orvis to discount original Helios and the 8 1/2' models cast better than the 9' 5-weight versions in my opinion. For a bit over $500 there is the Hardy Zenith; one of the best #5's out there. You might look at George Anderson's 5-weight shoot on his site and here in this rod forum.
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My personal choice would probably be a St Croix Legend Elite. 8'6" vs. 9' would depend on which one I liked casting better (I haven't cast the new version with SCVI graphite in the butt).
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Fishing small to medium size streams you could go with an 8 1/2'/#5 instead of a 9' model. A Scott A4 at $395 comes to mind as a fine choice in this category if you intend to buy a new rod. Like others, I expect Orvis to discount original Helios and the 8 1/2' models cast better than the 9' 5-weight versions in my opinion. For a bit over $500 there is the Hardy Zenith; one of the best #5's out there. You might look at George Anderson's 5-weight shoot on his site and here in this rod forum.
I was seeing these at the Denver show last week for $465, I am sure they would have gone lower considering the environment.

The Helios is a dress up Hydros, and I have a tip flex Hydros that is a good rod. The medium flex rod would suit your requirements as well.

As others said to the ZXL can be had in the $450 range now too and it is a fantastic all around rod
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Default Re: Looking for a new rod.......

Which part of the country do you fish, and are you even located in the USA? Are you fishing for trout, catfish, carp, smallmouth, etc...? How are your casting skills? Do the streams and rivers you fish have steep banks and overhanging branches? Do you wade the rivers, or fish from a boat? Are you using heavy streamers, dry flies, multiple nymph rigs with an indicator? All of these factors will help to determine what sort of rod action and length might best suit you. If you're going to be fishing heavy streamers, a soft action rod will not perform as well as something like the St. Croix Legend Elite mentioned above. If your streams have lots of overhanging branches, a shorter rod like Sweet&Salt mentioned might be more suitable, both in terms of accuracy and avoiding branches.

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