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Old 05-09-2013, 06:43 PM
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Default Questions about a Bamboo Rod

Okay, so I know a guy that is considering selling this rod:

Heddon Bamboo flyrod " Bill Stanley's favorite" From the 1950's

#20 -9' 2 1/2F HC-H- or D ( Basically 5-6 weight)
3 Piece rod with extra tip, original rod sack, and tube.


I've tried to do a little research on this rod but I thought some of you guys here might be able to clear some things up.

for instance, the seller says it's basically a 5/6 wt. but my research indicates it's really a 6/7 wt. Which is correct?

Also, would I use modern line on this, or would I need to find silk line, and if so, where would I find it?

Also, what does this mean? #20 -9' 2 1/2F HC-H- or D

Finally, the rod is not in original condition; it has been refurbished, and judging from the pics it looks nearly brand new. What would be a fair asking price for something like this?

thanks in advance for your responses.

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Silk Fly Line Conversion Chart | Bamboo Fly Rod Information Center - Orvis

This site will give you the answers to your questions.

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There are modern fly lines designed to perform more like silk lines, Cortland Sylk is one I have. On my other bamboo rod I have a Wulff Triangle Taper. I like both.

I know little about bamboo and couldn't begin to give an appraisal but I'd guess people would need to see pics to give an informed answer.
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Also, what does this mean? #20 -9' 2 1/2F HC-H- or D
The number 20 is just the model number of the Bill Stanley rod.
The #20 rods were made in lengths from 6 foot to 9.5 foot with the shorter models being far more desirable.
The 2 1/2F is the ferrule size.
Heddon 9' rods came in four ferrule sizes. 2F (standard trout action),..2 1/2F (bass trout action),...2 3/4F (power-plus action),... 3F (heavy duty action). With the 2 1/2F (19/64" I.D.) on the 9' rods advertized as
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Dry fly action. Suitable for bass and trout. A most popular general purpose all around rod.
The HCH or D would probably take a modern DT6.Most any brand of supple line would do.

Value ?....Heddons are as good as they get when it comes to production rods. The fact that it's 9 footer (heavy) takes away from it's enjoyment value though.
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Take a look at Len Codella's site. He'll likely have a Heddon or two for sale and you can get an idea on prices. A few years ago, I possessed an 8 1/2 Heddon that had been refurbished and I sold it for $250. My guess is that today it might be worth double that. As already noted, this will be a heavy rod and not one you'd likely want to fish all day.

As to lines, I'd want to put a real silk line on it for two reasons. First, the real silk is much thinner than the Sylk lines sold by Cortland. The Cortland lines are very supple, but not as thin. The reason a 6 wt was the trout standard rod in the glory days of bamboo is that it is only the diameter of a 4 wt plastic line. Hence you get the same delicacy with a 6 wt silk as a 4 wt plastic line. And, it cuts the wind better.

The second reason is that the guides on old rods assumed the fisher would be using a thin silk line. Thus you'll get better casting and distance with the thinner line. As to sources, Google "Silk Fly Lines" and you'll get several hits. I've most recently dealt with Herndon Rod Company for both Phoenix and Terenzio lines. The new artificial silk lines from Terenzio are my current favorites and they are $70 cheaper than the Phoenix lines.
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curious synchronicity... I had never heard of a "Bill Stanley's Favorite" until I read this thread yesterday. But this morning, sitting in the market enjoying french toast and Ed Engel's "Splitting Cane", I found a reference to Bill Stanley's Favorites in chapter 2. Very brief comparison to other Heddon's....
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The number 20 is just the model number of the Bill Stanley rod.
The #20 rods were made in lengths from 6 foot to 9.5 foot with the shorter models being far more desirable.
The 2 1/2F is the ferrule size.
Heddon 9' rods came in four ferrule sizes. 2F (standard trout action),..2 1/2F (bass trout action),...2 3/4F (power-plus action),... 3F (heavy duty action). With the 2 1/2F (19/64" I.D.) on the 9' rods advertized as

The HCH or D would probably take a modern DT6.Most any brand of supple line would do.

Value ?....Heddons are as good as they get when it comes to production rods. The fact that it's 9 footer (heavy) takes away from it's enjoyment value though.
Thanks. That's a lot of info. Should help me make a decision.
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