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Old 05-27-2013, 11:25 AM
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Default New #5 rod - recomendations?

Hello, I'm new to this forum!

I'm about to buy my second fly rod, and want to step up and buy a more premium rod this time. I don't got the technic 100% yet, so I need a rod that is easy to cast with that allows some "mistakes."

- Small streams to medium rivers
- High mountain waters with no streams
- Trout and arctic char

Can you help me choose? I'm not looking for budget models as I will try to find some place with sales or maybe a nice used one. Prize is not so very important as I could have this rod for many years. I don't know alot of the technical stuff but I need a rod that is effortless to cast and can cast "far enough"

I've heard good things about the Guideline fario and zpey dreamcatcher. Any others brands like sage, hardy, orvis, scott, sage etc that could be something for me?

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First of all welcome to the forum. You'll likely get a lot of different answers to your question. Each of us has different rods which we like and many of us have not tried all that many brands / models of rods. Add to this that two guys will try the same two rods on the same water and same day, and choose differently. You quickly realize it is hard to give a clear cut answer. Check out this previous thread which links to the 5wt shootout that Yellowstone Angler did a couple years ago as well as the resulting discussion.

If budget isn't a big issue for you, see if you can get into some fly shops and handle different rods, talk to the people there to get advice, try to cast them, etc etc. If you have a price limit that will narrow down the options and focus the advice you get here. If you have a rod you really like, what is it? Do you want something similar or different? Knowing what you like will also help focus the advice.

All that said, I'm sure you'll get some good advice here. There are some people who know a lot about a lot of different rods.
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Currently Orvis has 20% off their outfits.. ie: rod, reel, line... I'd look at something over there first... I'd check the Access outfits myself if I had money to spend
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First of all welcome to the forum. You'll likely get a lot of different answers to your question. Each of us has different rods which we like and many of us have not tried all that many brands / models of rods. Add to this that two guys will try the same two rods on the same water and same day, and choose differently. You quickly realize it is hard to give a clear cut answer. Check out this previous thread which links to the 5wt shootout that Yellowstone Angler did a couple years ago as well as the resulting discussion.

If budget isn't a big issue for you, see if you can get into some fly shops and handle different rods, talk to the people there to get advice, try to cast them, etc etc. If you have a price limit that will narrow down the options and focus the advice you get here. If you have a rod you really like, what is it? Do you want something similar or different? Knowing what you like will also help focus the advice.

All that said, I'm sure you'll get some good advice here. There are some people who know a lot about a lot of different rods.
Thanks for your reply! The rod I have is a norwegian one, Vangen superior 601 I think it is called. I don't really like it anymore, I don't get a good feeling even when I cast good casts. So I don't really know if the problem is the line or what, or if I want something similar or different, but I just want something better I'll just have to wait for some more replies and maybe from someone who has been in the same boat as me and see what they ended up with. Prize isn't really an issue but I always like ending up with a good buy. Also I heard some of the brands provide warranty so if I break a rod by mistake I only have to pay a small amount and then get it covered. This would be nice!

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Currently Orvis has 20% off their outfits.. ie: rod, reel, line... I'd look at something over there first... I'd check the Access outfits myself if I had money to spend
I will probably end up with tax and custom charges etc if buying outside of Norway, but will check it out!
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I will probably end up with tax and custom charges etc if buying outside of Norway, but will check it out!
I'd take it into account if you can't find anything on your side of the pond... It's a savings of $100++ depending on which outfit you go with.. doubt taxes and customs would cost that much.. but then again I don't know because that's never been an issue for me being in the states
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Default Re: New #5 rod - recomendations?

Do you know about the Yellowstone Angler 5 weight shootout? Any of the top-scoring rods on their list would be good choices. Read the review comments to get a sense of the differences among the different models, rather than just relying on the scores alone.

2013 5 weight shootout - Yellowstone Angler
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Do you know about the Yellowstone Angler 5 weight shootout? Any of the top-scoring rods on their list would be good choices. Read the review comments to get a sense of the differences among the different models, rather than just relying on the scores alone.

2013 5 weight shootout - Yellowstone Angler
Nice one, thanks!

I've been looking around for some good offers here in Norway and I found this.

- Orvis clearwater II 865-4 TIP FLEX on 20%. Looks like it is a beginners rod, would it be okay for me anyway if im over that stage?
- Hardy demon 9 foot #5 (looks like it is on -40% ive mailed the store and asked)
- Scott a2 and a3 in 9" #5. Looks like a3 is the most expensive of them, but they cost the same as the a3 is on sale atleast.

I also found loop opti stream #5 in one store, but it is twice as much as the scotts and the hardy (if it is on sale). What do you guys think of these rods i've listed?
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Welcome to the forum, Zelly.

An issue with the brands that you have listed (Guideline, Zpey) is that they have limited or no distribution here in the North America. Many of the readers have not heard of these brands.

In North America, Sage, Scott, Winston, Hardy, Orvis, and G Loomis are the most mentioned brands for premium rods. TFO and Redington are known for quality price pointed rods.

The guys have already mentioned the "shootout," so I'll end this post here.

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Welcome to the forum, Zelly.

An issue with the brands that you have listed (Guideline, Zpey) is that they have limited or no distribution here in the North America. Many of the readers have not heard of these brands.

In North America, Sage, Scott, Winston, Hardy, Orvis, and G Loomis are the most mentioned brands for premium rods. TFO and Redington are known for quality price pointed rods.

The guys have already mentioned the "shootout," so I'll end this post here.

Dennis
Yea it was a good test and I'm thinking about the loop opti stream.
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Loop is getting better market share in the USA. A few years ago, the distribution was limited to a few regional shops. Since then, Loop has gained more dealers. I cannot say much about the Opti Stream series other than I wiggled a one at a show. As for quality of build, it looks like Loop uses quality components and its rods are finished nicely.

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