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Old 06-27-2013, 08:55 PM
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Default Looking for a new 4 or 5 Weight

Hey guys,

So I currently own a loomis pro4x 9'5weight and I don't mind it. It just feels a little slow. I am looking for a new rod and would like something on the higher end scale.

I fish mainly for stream browns and occasionally bass. I am leaning towards a 5 weight but a 4 is not outta the question. I have been thinking sage tcx, one, circa or loomis streamdance, whisper creek or glx. What's everyone's thoughts on 4 vs 5 and what rod to get if money is not an option.

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You will get a hundred different opinions on rod choices, but in reality it is like buying a new truck, some folks love Fords, other love GMC, etc. My best advice is to go to a local fly shop and ask to demo cast several different rods, what feels right in your hands may feel terrible in mine. I could tell you that the perfect rod for you would be the Sage XXX or the Orvis XXX but that really doesn't amount to a hill of beans. We each have different casting strokes so the perfect rod for me will most likely won't be the perfect rod for you. Please do yourself a favor before buying and do some hands on casting with the rods you have in mind, todays new rods are expensive, make an informed decision for buying.
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I'm with Larry on this one. You need to cast a few rods to see which one is best for you. Each person has his or her own quirks on what they like about a rod. If you are thinking premium rod, look into the usual suspects.

As for line weight category. Be realistic on the payload that you intend to throw.

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Default Re: Looking for a new 4 or 5 Weight

I really like both the Orvis H2 midflex 8 1/2' and the Hardy Zenith 9' 5 weights. The Orvis is a little better closer in and the Hardy is a little better for distance. I also like the Sage ZXL 9' 5 weight, recently discontinued, but there are still some around at clearance prices. I agree with the others who say you have to try them and pick the one that feels best in your own hand. They are all excellent quality.

The Zenith 8 1/2' 4 weight won Yellowstone Angler's recent 4-weight shootout, and I am eager to compare that to the equivalent H2 and ZXL as well. Haven't cast any of them yet myself so I can't recommend them yet, though.

On whether to get a 4 or 5, I would suggest basing your decision on what you already have and what another rod will let you do that you can't do now. If you've already got a rod you like in one weight, get a new one in the other. If you're looking for a rod that will become your favorite all-rounder, I'd recommend a 5 over a 4.
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That Sage One Elite looks good. I didn't realize it came with a titanium winding check and a black hook keeper.

Features:
All-water rod
Fast action
Konnetic technology construction
Black Ice shaft color
Black primary thread wraps with Gray titanium trim wraps
Elite, flor grade, snub-nose, half-wells cork handle
Titanium reel seat with laser-etched logoed end cap
Titanium winding check
Titanium stripper guides with ceramic insert
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Extra (spare) tip section
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Default Re: Looking for a new 4 or 5 Weight

Quite a range you're considering... I'd take the above advice and cast em all. The Circa will be almost polar opposite from a TCX, just depends on what you want to throw. As long as you're casting rods, I'd find a 5 wt z axis, it's a great all around rod that has a pretty fast action, can deliver bigger payloads but is nice and sensitive, also cost you less than a One
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Default Re: Looking for a new 4 or 5 Weight

Second the suggestion to seek a 5wt Z Axis. I have one and it is indeed very versatile.

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I'm with Larry on this one. You need to cast a few rods to see which one is best for you. Each person has his or her own quirks on what they like about a rod. If you are thinking premium rod, look into the usual suspects.

As for line weight category. Be realistic on the payload that you intend to throw.

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The new Radian is a fast action rod that is replacing the S4. I have not touched one yet. I grabbed the pictures off the local shop's Facebook page. It is supposed to be lighter and smoother than the S4. I do not know if Scott is using a Nano-ish type concentration. Some key Scott Pro Staff members have their rods now. Radians will be distributed this summer to shops.
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