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Old 07-16-2013, 02:31 PM
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I've never heard of Total Hardware but the reel seat and the plastic cap on the grip look much like a Garcia Conolon to me.
Garcia rated their rods by the number of stars too with the brown series being their 4 star (out of 5)
Are the 2 sections the same length, or is the tip longer than the butt ?
To follow up on Rip Tide, how many guides does it have?
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I wonder if 'Coast to Coast' and 'Total Hardware' are a store that had its own name on a line of fly rods made by a major manufacturer? I googled Coast to Coast Total Hardware History and came up with links to Tru Value Hardware, looks like Coast to Coast is part of the companies history?

Does the text under the numbers say 'Brown Star'?

Hopefully someone with particular knowledge about this rod or line of rods will chime in with more info. Perhaps the numbers will yield info on line weight but I'm not sure how to interpret it. If you have fly reels around (or know someone who does) line it up and see what casts well.
Thanks for the info williamhj.

Yes, directly below the numbers in parentheses is says "Brown Star"

The only line that I have available to me at this time is a SA WF5 labeled as Air Cell I believe. This line doesn't seem real compatible with the rod. Just seems to require too much work to get good casts.
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The only line that I have available to me at this time is a SA WF5 labeled as Air Cell I believe. This line doesn't seem real compatible with the rod. Just seems to require too much work to get good casts.
I have 2 of the brown Garcia rods that I suspect that yours actually is.
My 6 1/2 foot rod is a 6wt and the 8 1/2 foot is a 9/10
Vintage fiberglass rods that cast line lighter than 6wts are rare
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I want to thank everyone for the info. Especially Innes for making my pics viewable to everyone.

I'll post section lengths and eye count in a little bit when I get back home.

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I have 2 of the brown Garcia rods that I suspect that yours actually is.
My 6 1/2 foot rod is a 6wt and the 8 1/2 foot is a 9/10
Vintage fiberglass rods that cast line lighter than 6wts are rare
Ty riptide! Do you have any idea when a rod like this would have been produced? In the 60's or 70's?

I really like how the rod feels. It seems to just want to "cast" for a lack of better words. Would really like it to shine with a good 7 wt line. I'm wanting to target some local smallmouths.
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Ty riptide! Do you have any idea when a rod like this would have been produced? In the 60's or 70's?

I really like how the rod feels. It seems to just want to "cast" for a lack of better words. Would really like it to shine with a good 7 wt line. I'm wanting to target some local smallmouths.
If it's what I think it is, it's pre-1964.
I think that you can count on it being a 7wt.
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Ok riptide, went home and took the rod apart. It appears that the tip section is just slightly longer than the butt section. By slightly I mean just an inch or so.

Biggie robs it has 6 guides including the tip.
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5 guides plus the tip top isn't good. Should have 7-8.
Don't count on it being a good casting rod.


You could always rebuild it
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5 guides plus the tip top isn't good. Should have 7-8.
Don't count on it being a good casting rod.


You could always rebuild it
Yeah, I was hopeful it would have more guides. I learned to "cast"* on a 6/7 wt Garcia Conolon with five guides--not a pretty sight. I'm slowly rebuilding mine now.

*more like flail
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5 guides plus the tip top isn't good. Should have 7-8.
Don't count on it being a good casting rod.


You could always rebuild it
So do you still believe this rod to be a garcia?
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The rod was made for "Coast to Coast Hardware", the fly rod was manufactured by Berkley and is a true temper blank which was branded by Berkley. When trying to find the history of these "multi-branded" vintage rods is to completely look past the writing or label on the rod and break it down by construction. The ferrule type/artistic design and the natural glass finish are a few properties unique to this rod.
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