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Old 01-30-2009, 12:15 PM
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Default Factory rod vs blank?

I'd like to start a new thread here since my old one got kinda long.

How can you tell a factory rod from a blank built rod? I understand Sage has put a serial # on the back of some of their factory rods but how far back does this go? Also does a Sage blank come with a rod case(and I'm speaking of the older alum cases) with info on the cap. Is this another way of separating factory rods from blank built rods? When looking at rods on ebay I have noticed a big dificency in info when trying to seperate factory built rods from blank built rods.
Also is this one of the few collectable objects (Knives, guns, etc.) where the factory rod is worth more than a custom made rod?
Any info you can provide on this subject will be appreciated.
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Hello BigNick, while I'm certainly no expert on sorting custom from factory built rods, I know something about Sage reelseats. Some of them are noticeably proprietary. This is not to say that a reelseat maker or even a hobbyist couldn't copy such, but it's something to look for when considering an expensive 'Sage' flyrod that's for sale on Ebay. Might explain why some of them don't seem to bring a high price at auction end. Hope this is even just a tiny bit helpful.

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Also is this one of the few collectable objects (Knives, guns, etc.) where the factory rod is worth more than a custom made rod?
When you talking a factory rod vs. a rod build by your average home builder, the factory rod always has the highest resale value
If the rod was build by a well known professional custom rod builder there's a slightly better than even chance that the custom rod has the higher value.

At this time, very few graphite rods are considered 'collectible'.
Resale value is a different story
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All the Sage custom blanks I've seen have "B" behind the numbers.
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I've wrapped four Sage blanks and all were designated as blanks by having a "B" within the model code written on the rod (Examples: 'Graphite II B480GFLRP', 'LL 279 Graphite III B'). The first one I bought back in the early to mid '80's so I assume they've done it from the beginning. They do not come with a rod sock or tube. The advantage of wrapping your own (besides monetary) is the ability to customize; it won't help the resale value.
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often times, the "custom" blank finished out to a rod has nicer applied thread finish than the factory rod. not MINE exactly... LOL.

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Thanks guys, I know a lot more now than I did yesterday.
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If you break a section on a factory rod it's faster, easier and less expensive to replace. I have also found that factory rods have a higher fair used market value, FWIW.
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My take on custom rods is that there are many real craftsmen and many very good artists. It's hard to find both in one person in the custom rods I've seen.
Also, for the my tastes anyhow, custom builders over-cook their work. Many use poor color wraps or far too many colors and they experiment with cork coloring too much.
Gilding the lily is an expression that comes to mind.
I might one day try rod wrapping, but only to save money. I can't think of anything I would change on the factory rods that I own that I plan to keep and I'm pretty darn sure I couldn't beat the quality of those rods.
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Hi Jackster,

Boy, I am really with you on over doing a rod. I had a couple of rods made up for me in Alaska. They used Sage blanks that are dark brownish. I had them use a brown under-wrap and black over-wrap. Everything blends in real nice. Some custom jobs are way too gaudy for my taste.

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