The North American Fly Fishing Forum
Go Back   The North American Fly Fishing Forum > Tackle Talk > Fly Rods

Fly Rods Post any comments or questions regarding fly rods...


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2011, 12:24 PM
Jackster's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: NC
Posts: 1,623
Jackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant future
Default Re: Hardy Zenith wins Yellowstone Angler shootout!

Quote:
Originally Posted by db cooper View Post
As for the review...fly rod reviews are like any review...worthless.
I get some good information out of reviews, such as if a rod is made in Korea or not.
The specs and hardware details are good to know if that's of interest to you.
The actual casting and fishing ability of the rods is somewhat a ****-shoot in reviews though. Some reviewers seem to really favor rods that they either helped to design (and they aren't shy about telling you that) or that might not play well in anything but windy, western waters. Other reviewers pull reverse snobbery and only review rods up to a certain price point.
I read most reviews and take out of them what I can. The proof of any rod is casting it yourself with the line you would like to use with it.
Reply With Quote
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2011, 02:58 PM
mojo's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Yewta
Posts: 1,985
mojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant future
Default Re: Hardy Zenith wins Yellowstone Angler shootout!

To me fishing the rod is more of a test then Anderson's "What Do We Do Come Wintertime" c r a p shoot. As before, use the river, different lines and reels and then give your UNBIASED report. Add in T&T, Scott, Tom Morgan, Cabelas, Great Bay, TL Johnson etc. Not conduct the "test" in a gym as he's been doing. I'm willing to bet Geo carries Hardy, Sage, Loomis and Winston, St Croix, Redington, Orvis and TFO in his shop- not that there's anything wrong with that.
Oh and use lines that are 5w. Not 5 1/2 w like Jackster said.
__________________
Life is not like a bowl of cherries. It's more like a jar of jalapeno's. What you eat today might burn your ass tomorrow...
Reply With Quote
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2011, 03:24 PM
fredaevans's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: White City (tad north of Medford) Oar-E-Gone
Posts: 4,805
fredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Hardy Zenith wins Yellowstone Angler shootout!

Part that's so interesting is there's a parallel thread going on the UK 'Mother Board' with just this same question. Posted over a link to here if anyone was interested in taking a peek with 'our thoughts.'

Bye the bye, a darned good board and your log in info here will be the same 'over there.'

fae
__________________
"“Reputation is what the world thinks a man is; character is what he really is.”

Last edited by fredaevans; 03-20-2011 at 03:26 PM. Reason: Can't 'spell' worth Shxt this afternoon. :>(
Reply With Quote
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2011, 09:11 PM
db cooper's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 229
db cooper has a spectacular aura aboutdb cooper has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: Hardy Zenith wins Yellowstone Angler shootout!

Quote:
Originally Posted by mojo View Post
To me fishing the rod is more of a test then Anderson's "What Do We Do Come Wintertime" c r a p shoot. As before, use the river, different lines and reels and then give your UNBIASED report. Add in T&T, Scott, Tom Morgan, Cabelas, Great Bay, TL Johnson etc. Not conduct the "test" in a gym as he's been doing. I'm willing to bet Geo carries Hardy, Sage, Loomis and Winston, St Croix, Redington, Orvis and TFO in his shop- not that there's anything wrong with that.
Oh and use lines that are 5w. Not 5 1/2 w like Jackster said.
BINGO!!! This is why these reviews are MARKETING TOOLS
Reply With Quote
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2011, 10:47 PM
Jackster's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: NC
Posts: 1,623
Jackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant future
Default Re: Hardy Zenith wins Yellowstone Angler shootout!

Quote:
Originally Posted by mojo View Post
Oh and use lines that are 5w. Not 5 1/2 w like Jackster said.
Oh... I thought I read in the shootout that they used SA GPX lines.
Reply With Quote
  #26 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2011, 03:30 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Chicago
Posts: 131
chicagojohn will become famous soon enoughchicagojohn will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Hardy Zenith wins Yellowstone Angler shootout!

GPX lines are a half line size heavier than standard 5 weight lines, which was what they used in the shootout

Quote:
"Again this year, we decided to use the standard Scientific Anglers Mastery GPX lines for all our test reels. We used mostly #5’s but had one #6 GPX on hand to try out on the stiffest rods (some of them needed it!) The GPX taper is more suited to the stiffer, medium fast and fast action rods we are testing since it is about a half line size heavier than a more normal Trout Taper and with a 26-foot belly; it has more weight in the forward part of the line. Front tapers are a short 6.5 feet that allows for a quicker turnover with longer leaders and in a stiff wind."
Reply With Quote
  #27 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2011, 07:10 PM
mojo's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Yewta
Posts: 1,985
mojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant futuremojo has a brilliant future
Default Re: Hardy Zenith wins Yellowstone Angler shootout!

Quote:
Originally Posted by chicagojohn View Post
GPX lines are a half line size heavier than standard 5 weight lines, which was what they used in the shootout
Now what would the results have been if they used a straight 5w line? Something to think about George.
__________________
Life is not like a bowl of cherries. It's more like a jar of jalapeno's. What you eat today might burn your ass tomorrow...
Reply With Quote
  #28 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2011, 07:21 PM
gt05254's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Bennington, VT
Posts: 1,435
gt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant futuregt05254 has a brilliant future
Default Re: Hardy Zenith wins Yellowstone Angler shootout!

I put as much stock in rod reviews as I do in movie reviews. Personal taste still counts for something, at least in this cave.
Gary
Reply With Quote
  #29 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2011, 12:02 AM
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6
bloke is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Hardy Zenith wins Yellowstone Angler shootout!

Quote:
Originally Posted by db cooper View Post
I have an honest 2 or 3 hours trigger time behind a zenith. Its a nice rod but lets not pretend they changed the game. Everyone is using the nano silica technoligy. Is it strong? Who knows...i dont break fly rods. Would i buy one? No way...not going to pay $700 for a far east import. It competes with the high end Sage's and St. Croix's i have cast with but im not going to endlessly drone on about the talking points from their add campaign. Its a Korean fly rod thats pretty good. Thats the end of it.

As for the review...fly rod reviews are like any review...worthless.
Can I ask how you guys know these rods are made in Korea?
and to be more precise which factory in Korea?
Mick
Reply With Quote
  #30 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2011, 12:59 AM
MoscaPescador's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Northern California
Posts: 3,725
Blog Entries: 4
MoscaPescador has a reputation beyond reputeMoscaPescador has a reputation beyond reputeMoscaPescador has a reputation beyond reputeMoscaPescador has a reputation beyond reputeMoscaPescador has a reputation beyond reputeMoscaPescador has a reputation beyond reputeMoscaPescador has a reputation beyond reputeMoscaPescador has a reputation beyond reputeMoscaPescador has a reputation beyond reputeMoscaPescador has a reputation beyond reputeMoscaPescador has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Hardy Zenith wins Yellowstone Angler shootout!

Quote:
Originally Posted by bloke View Post
Can I ask how you guys know these rods are made in Korea?
A "Made in Korea" sticker is attached to every Zenith and every other non-UK Hardy rod.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bloke View Post
...to be more precise which factory in Korea?
Sorry. Don't know.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On














All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
2005-2014 The North American Fly Fishing Forum. All rights reserved.