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Old 02-18-2011, 02:29 AM
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Sounds like f-a-n-t-a-s-y island to me. "Its DA PLANE,its DA PLANE"
Big semi-gullible fish, that are yummy. (I like yummy things) The only people around, you brought along.
What in the the hell am I doing down here?
I'm thinking, garlic-butter to fry. Perhaps with some crumbled gorgonzola and a pale ale?.
I don't eat much trout, haven't in a long while. Maybe if injured...or on a backpack trip, desperately seeking protein/culling a huge poulation..
Certainly not eating a wild steely.
Besides, reading, I really lose interest in "free fish", when you get dietary/health warnings about mercury etc...from the state fishing regs.
(Only two fish per month, for grown males, none for kis under certain age, or nursing mothers of course..)

Down here some braniac helped pike into Lake Davis.
Fear was rampant they would get into the DELTA! in Sac.,CA. Salmon end-er, halibut, and a host of others, maybe the final straw!!!!?????
We killed them on sight, and banked them.
Wish I had known they were yummy.
And I saw the turn as well, maybe a little territorial too?
Kind of a primitive escort outta here?
Food/not-food, in my space.

There was a time, this place was a garden (like your place). It is still stunning in places, and I live in one.
Overused abused, rode hard and put up wet.
We just tryin' to maintain what we have left.
Instead of just telling tales of how it was....
Thanks for temping me to travel, broaden my horizons before I lose them altogether!
(so..you know a guy with a plane?)
I think I've hijacked my own poll.

Jim

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Old 02-18-2011, 03:15 AM
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Sounds like f-a-n-t-a-s-y island to me. "Its DA PLANE,its DA PLANE"
Big semi-gullible fish, that are yummy. (I like yummy things) The only people around, you brought along.
What in the the hell am I doing down here?
I'm thinking, garlic-butter to fry. Perhaps with some crumbled gorgonzola and a pale ale?.
I don't eat much trout, haven't in a long while. Maybe if injured...or on a backpack trip, desperately seeking protein/culling a huge poulation..
Certainly not eating a wild steely.
Besides, reading, I really lose interest in "free fish", when you get dietary/health warnings about mercury etc...from the state fishing regs.
(Only two fish per month, for grown males, none for kis under certain age, or nursing mothers of course..)

Down here some braniac helped pike into Lake Davis.
Fear was rampant they would get into the DELTA! in Sac.,CA. Salmon end-er, halibut, and a host of others, maybe the final straw!!!!?????
We killed them on sight, and banked them.
Wish I had known they were yummy.
And I saw the turn as well, maybe a little territorial too?
Kind of a primitive escort outta here?
Food/not-food, in my space.

There was a time, this place was a garden (like your place). It is still stunning in places, and I live in one.
Overused abused, rode hard and put up wet.
We just tryin' to maintain what we have left.
Instead of just telling tales of how it was....
Thanks for temping me to travel, broaden my horizons before I lose them altogether!
(so..you know a guy with a plane?)
I think I've hijacked my own poll.

Jim
Jim, I am not quite sure how to respond...but yes I know a guy with a plane, I know quite a few guys with planes. It is common here. Even if you dont know someone with a plane you can get a charter relatively easily.
There are literally tens of thousands of basically untouched lakes and remotely accessed rivers you can fly to.

The biggest thing about pike is that they are a white meat fish. You can season them to taste like anything. The trouble is they are bony and need to be skinned. So use a very sharp knife and when filleting find that line just outside of the pin bones and strip it down to the tail. Bigger ones are best fried. Try a beer batter and deep fry or tempura and pan fry.

Smaller sizes are good with a medium salt and pepper brine then smoked with cotton wood, or alder.
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Old 02-18-2011, 03:44 AM
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Nerka, not so many people have float planes down here. It must be nice. (I was kidding a bit)
Thanks for cooking low-down.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to bed and dream fishin' AK. style.
I'm still recovering from yesterdays Epic. 5hr. late night drive in 4wl, on ice, with a 10ft.enclosed trailer and less than perfect tires, over 8000 ft pass, several 7s, Ground blizzards. Visibility 0 at times (I could see the stars but not the ground), 70+ mi. wind gusts. Drifting snow. Of course the heater/defroster fan broke, and I nearly bought it a dozen times. Near jack knife, road carnage and flashing lights buried deep in a drift..... Didn't blink, for most of the drive. But.... "the male must go through".
Takes a little more out of me these days....
We've wandered far...

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Old 02-20-2011, 06:46 AM
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Limiting my response to trout (for simpmicity sake), I have to say they are quick learners/adaptable. I believe trout to have a high level of situational awareness. They are in-tune with their environment and all that's going on around them. To me that isn't "smart" , but highly adaptable. Likewise catch and release is possibly the best educator of fish as a whole. I seldom keep fish for the table. The exceptions being breem and steelhead,and not a lot of either. So I guess I'm guilty of fine tuning their survival abilities. Little things like keeping your shadow off the water. Don't stomp on the creek bank. One good accurate cast is better than 100 random casts. These are the things the "old timers" told us kids back in the 70s. We considered them trade secrets and felt privileged to receive them. On the small western PA streams I grew up fishing it was good advice. We all thought the lunker of the hole was gifted with some sort of fish wisdom, that made them un-catchable and smarter than all humans. In reality they were just very sensitive to their surroundings. The fact that a hold-over stocked trout can adjust to their environment and become a finicky survivor,is tribute to their ability to "learn". Adaptable? Absolutely. Smart? Not really.
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Old 02-20-2011, 01:01 PM
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Put me down for they are smart. Highly adaptable for their world was a good one. High survivor instincts above was another good one.
I've witnessed two situations that made me say you've got to be kidding. One was I released a fairly large Trout that was fine. He swam away with lots of energy. He swam back to shallow water very close to where I was wading ; and watched me for a number of minutes (nose pointed right at me). The other is having them swimming right with you waiting to eat the bugs you kick up. They learned that somewhere. They must also know that they are safe from predators above while you are around. Then again maybe not. Maybe I just like to think that they are smart so I can justify not underestimating them.
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There is a new thread for you, "Fisherman, Smart... Not Smart?
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Old 02-20-2011, 04:17 PM
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There is a new thread for you, "Fisherman, Smart... Not Smart?
...........yeah, I know
I'm afraid to find out the only ones the fish will get close enough to eat kicked up food are the dumb ones.
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If I'm the smarter of the two, I should probably just hang it up now.
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