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Took the first fishing trip of the year yesterday to a Kansas farm pond. I wish I'd had a camera, but I noticed an insect that appeared to be hatching.

Here's the physical description:

A small, whitish gray moth, about the width of a dime. with a couple of dark markings toward the front of each wing. The wings were roughly flat and parrallel to the water surface. I wondered about caddis, though most pictures I've seen of caddis wings look more tentlike/triangular in profile.

Here's what they'd do: You'd see a noticeable dimple in the water--you could sometimes even hear a tiny splash or "bloop" in the water. The moth by this point would start skating/scooting toward shore, making a distrubance in the water--a little wake even. I tried to imitate it by rippig a dry fly along the surface. Again, my thought was caddis from what I've read about them.

I don't think they were landing on the water as they weren't flying around and they seemed to suddenly appear on the water out of nowhere and do that scoot thing. I say with a fair amount of certainty it was a hatch.

Any ideas? I'm really curious about the nymph stage as this pond has good bluegills.
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Some caddis display a more prominent tent shape than others so it probably is a caddis "hatch." I would think and pupae or emerger or a dry caddis skated on the surface should work. Match size and general colour, regardless of the species and it should work for you....
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There are such things as stillwater aquatic moths, but it sounds like your bug is a caddis
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Thanks for the replies. I'll try to see if I can get one photoed. Now, to figure out a fly pattern ...
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RipTige I did not know that! Hey I will be looking those little critters up here. Thanks!
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Default Re: Sound like any insect you know?

in the colorado river valley, there is a moth, not sure why they do it but they buzz the water like a caddis......I've seen them and also seen trout come clear out of the water after them.......there must be something they like about the taste.....a larger stimulator or a large caddis imitation above a weighted nymph about 16" ....that way when you raise your rod tip the dry " dances " the surface and the nymph gives another meal choice for the fish. while keeping the top fly in semi - contact with the water
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Took the first fishing trip of the year yesterday to a Kansas farm pond. I wish I'd had a camera, but I noticed an insect that appeared to be hatching.

Here's the physical description:

A small, whitish gray moth, about the width of a dime. with a couple of dark markings toward the front of each wing. The wings were roughly flat and parrallel to the water surface. I wondered about caddis, though most pictures I've seen of caddis wings look more tentlike/triangular in profile.

Here's what they'd do: You'd see a noticeable dimple in the water--you could sometimes even hear a tiny splash or "bloop" in the water. The moth by this point would start skating/scooting toward shore, making a distrubance in the water--a little wake even. I tried to imitate it by rippig a dry fly along the surface. Again, my thought was caddis from what I've read about them.

I don't think they were landing on the water as they weren't flying around and they seemed to suddenly appear on the water out of nowhere and do that scoot thing. I say with a fair amount of certainty it was a hatch.

Any ideas? I'm really curious about the nymph stage as this pond has good bluegills.
I think you were seeing caddis, we see them on ponds around here too...I would guess about a size 12; when they hatched they would hop and bounce across the surface for a ways. At times the gills will come up and chase them. Try tying up a tan emerger type fly and use a clump of Hi-Viz for the wing...tye the wing in in a "V"...

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