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xjguy07 10-02-2006 08:47 PM

setting the fly.
 
well me and my friend go fishing after school for a few hours at my grandmothers pond on her farm. i usually have good success catching small bass and little sunnies. but as of late i have been haveing troubble setting the hook in the fish mouth. as in today i was fishing for a while and i could see the fish hit the fly but it would never take so after a half hour i switched to a smaller fly with moderate success i cought a few fish but still had the proublm of seeing fish hit and not set. these are small fish to begin with, the bass being aout 6 inches long and the sunnies being 3-4. i was useing a very small hook i'm not familar with hook sizes but i kno it was one of the smaller ones you can get. so what can i do to help set the fly better?

rdf1212 10-02-2006 09:48 PM

Re: setting the fly.
 
I also have a question on setting the hook on bass. Do you set the hook hardER if it is a bass on a popper? Because I learned that you don't set the hook hard on a trout and didn't know if the same applied to a bass.

Joni 10-02-2006 10:11 PM

Re: setting the fly.
 
I would say that you would have to set the hook a little harder on bass. I haven't really noticed, but I am sure these hard coure bassers will be able to answer that better. I do know that if the are just sipping at the fly, I speed up my retrieve a bit to see if I can spark more aggressive takes

BigCliff 10-05-2006 12:56 PM

Re: setting the fly.
 
Don't know that I qualify as a hardcore basser, but using the strip set will likely help you hook fish. The fly rod, by its nature is a Fantastic shock absorber. To apply substantial hook setting force, you would have to rare back with the fly rod REALLY hard.

DON'T!!!

This could cause you to hook something behind you or hit yourself with a flying hook. At the very least, the fish will have no option of going for the fly a second time, as it will be at least 10 feet away.

Instead, try using what we call a strip-set. To do this, you don't have to move the fly rod at all, but rather just give a sharp tug with your other hand that you are already using to strip the fly in. A strip of one foot will be about all that is necessary. This eliminates the flex of the rod softening the force to which you are pushing the point of the hook into the fish's jaw. It also means the fly will only be about a foot away, if the fish wants to go for it again. Once you feel the fish securely hooked and wiggling, you may need to release some line as you lift the rod into an upright position to fight the fish.

This may sound somewhat complicated, but you will get to where it is second nature pretty quickly.

On the small fish you're not hooking, it is very possible they are simply not taking the fly deep enough into their mouths to be hooked. Sunfish are notorious for doing this, and if you're fishing a popper with rubber legs, may actually be trying to rip the legs off. It can be infuriating, but its always fun to see fish hitting a fly on top.


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