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vapor10 09-12-2011 09:25 PM

Throwing Larger Flies with a 6wt.....
 
I have a Cabelas Three Rivers 6wt.

When I throw poppers 6 or bigger it seems like I really have to put a lot of extra "oomph" into the cast. Even then its not really flying out there. Same with Clousers. But if I put on a 6 sized grasshopper, I can bomb it out there no problem.

Is my line too light? Is there I technique I should try?

Im sure its hard to know the answer without seeing it happen, but Im hoping there might be a solution.

Let me know.

Thanks.

mudbug 09-12-2011 09:27 PM

Re: Throwing Larger Flies with a 6wt.....
 
What size leader are you using?

vapor10 09-12-2011 09:48 PM

Re: Throwing Larger Flies with a 6wt.....
 
For those I used a Cortland 2x...which is something like 10lb test. About an extra foot of 2x tippet on there as well.

I rigged up about 4 ft of 15lb flouro with about a 1ft of 10lb mono at work and was going to try that.....but figured I would get some perspective here as well.

Guest1 09-12-2011 10:08 PM

Re: Throwing Larger Flies with a 6wt.....
 
You may just need to adjust your casting. I use Clousers and bigger flies on a 5 wt. all the time. I also live on big water where there is no such thing as casting to far. It can be done. Get a big fat Clouser and start practicing. If all else fails, get a heavier weight rod. Also, I don't think it has anything to do with your leader.

vapor10 09-12-2011 10:13 PM

Re: Throwing Larger Flies with a 6wt.....
 
Ok,

I will keep practicing, that much is certain.

Its as if the butt of the leader hits the water, or nearly hits the water and then the fly comes after it. Sometimes it causes the line to just pile up near the butt of the leader.

Watching some videos about the Belgian cast.

Also, it happens more often with the poppers. I think they are actually much lighter than clousers or any other fly of the same hook size. Maybe not....But practice I will.

Guest1 09-12-2011 10:46 PM

Re: Throwing Larger Flies with a 6wt.....
 
Where and when are you hitting the water in your cast? This sounds more like a casting issue than an equipment problem.

vapor10 09-12-2011 11:03 PM

Re: Throwing Larger Flies with a 6wt.....
 
The fly line is loaded on the forward cast, but once it stops the fly doesnt stretch out the length of the leader. It almost looks like its floating over the water and then just loses steam.

haulingmario 09-12-2011 11:12 PM

Re: Throwing Larger Flies with a 6wt.....
 
I have 5-6 weight Conolon rod and a Sage Bass fly rod,230 grain which is about 8 weight line.
When I have used the bass 230 grain line on the Conolon fly rod I can cast just as far as the Sage Bass rod,which is about 60 feet using most bass flies.
The heavier weight line made a big difference on the 5-6 weight rod and I was able to cast further with bigger flies,just slow down the cast a bit and use more of a Belgian style cast.
Best of luck!
Mario

Guest1 09-12-2011 11:33 PM

Re: Throwing Larger Flies with a 6wt.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vapor10 (Post 316101)
The fly line is loaded on the forward cast, but once it stops the fly doesnt stretch out the length of the leader. It almost looks like its floating over the water and then just loses steam.

Do you double haul? It sounds like you are not getting the line speed you need.

vapor10 09-12-2011 11:38 PM

Re: Throwing Larger Flies with a 6wt.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Diver Dan (Post 316129)
Do you double haul? It sounds like you are not getting the line speed you need.

Im a newb and I cant do the double haul yet. Im trying but I cant do it.


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