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Old 09-29-2011, 01:57 AM
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just a vent,
so i've been fishing the local lake the past few days super hard
many fish to hand and a really nice time to boot.
my only gripe is the amount of garbage left by moron anglers before me
cigg butts, beer cans and my fav...sky blue worm containers! plus random shopping bags and what ever my happen to be inside them



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Yep us humans are slobs, I like to bring a small store bag every time I go out in my vest, though there is usually nothing to pickup where I go I get what I can and keep it that way. Others just don't care.
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I just don't understand it - will never understand it. Why do people leave behind their trash? It's disgusting.
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It's the new culture, nobody wants to be responsible for their own actions.

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Have experienced the same conditions at the local fishing pond, very upsetting. Also try to remember to bring trash bag with me.
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Sadly there are way more ******** out there then we need. Most of them are too lazy or too dense to teach them the right way to act...

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Old 09-29-2011, 08:27 AM
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It's the new culture, nobody wants to be responsible for their own actions.

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Man you said a mouthfull! There are some really good kids out there, I have been priveledged to know many of them. However, as a public High school teacher I see it more and more. Just try and make a young adult responsible, then deal with the parents......the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

I have seen really good, upstanding people act like slobs in the outdoors, especially when camping. Not sure of the mentallity here, or why it breaks down suddenly like that......guess I'm no Sigmund Freud. All we can do is set a good example for the youngsters (and oldsters too).
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Yep us humans are slobs, I like to bring a small store bag every time I go out in my vest, though there is usually nothing to pickup where I go I get what I can and keep it that way. Others just don't care.
I also put an old plastic grocery back in my wader pocket and pick up trash on the way out.

Like the original poster, I complain about slobs; but like you, I think we can do a lot on our own to clean up.

Now here's a question that the philosopher in me aks of myself. When I see trash on the stream and leave it there, do I bear any responsibility?
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Depends on your definition of responsibility. You have none for placing it there originally , but plenty for leaving it there. I often go home with pockets full of used fishing line found on the banks. Many of the streams I fish also have lots of spinner and bait fishermen. They tear off, and think nothing of leaving the torn line hanging in trees and lying on the shore for some hapless bird or animal to get tangled in. I think the old saying is "if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem".
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I also put an old plastic grocery back in my wader pocket and pick up trash on the way out.

Like the original poster, I complain about slobs; but like you, I think we can do a lot on our own to clean up.

Now here's a question that the philosopher in me aks of myself. When I see trash on the stream and leave it there, do I bear any responsibility?
If you did bear any responsibility then you are doomed to utter and complete failure. You could say that "because I SAW TRASH, and didn't pick it up; I am responsible". This logically leads to, "I KNOW THERE IS TRASH at the lake down the road, and I'm not going down there to pick it up; I am responsible. This also means that "I know there is trash on the shores of every lake in Ohio; I am also responsible for that".

"Supererogatory"...Big word meaning "above and beyond any normative ethical obligations". It's not your responsibility to pick up after others, but it is supererogatorily something that you and I choose to do (I will not say that is something we "should" do because that indicates responsibility or culpability). I don't think you can be blamed for leaving someone elses mess. Carried to its extreme, or "reducio ad absurdum" you could spend you life picking up other peoples trash; nearly "ad infinitum" and still be "responsible".

Yes I pick up trash, but I leave some too if it is too much of an inconvenience to tote it back.
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