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[img2="left"]http://aztecanglers.x2cms.com/pictures/TeamUSA100.jpg[/img2]U.S. fly fishing team finishes sixth at world championships

By DAVE BUCHANAN The Daily Sentinel
Wednesday, June 20, 2007

The U.S. Fly Fishing Team swept to a sixth-place finish Monday in the World Fly Fishing Championships, the team’s best-finish so far in world competition.

The team finished behind 2007 winner and six-time world champion France. The Czech Republic was second, followed by host country Finland, Portugal and Spain.
The U.S. team’s excellent showing, said captain Jack Dennis of Jackson, Wyo., is a sign that a new team-selection process involving regional trials is paying off.

“This truly is an example of a team effort (and) everybody working together for a common goal,” wrote Dennis in an e-mail from Kemi, Finland, the site of this year’s World Championships. “I firmly believe the competition system of trials will work. (A)s it expands and gets better, it helps us get closer and closer” to a world title.

The European nations have long been the leading contenders in international fly-fishing competitions, but this year the Americans, who were in ninth place going into the final day of competition, rallied to finish ahead of England, Italy, Australia and South America.

Members of the U.S. team include team captain Anthony Naranja of Grand Junction, Lance Egan (Sandy, Utah). George Daniels (State College, Penn.), Jim Hickey (Jackson, Wyo.), Brian Capsay (Durango), alternate Josh Stevens (Durango) and coaches Jay Buchner and Vladi Trzebunia.

“I can frankly say the French earned this championship by fishing hard and having the experience to handle... Read More

Dave Buchanan can be reached via e-mail at dbuchanan@gjds.com.
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Gee, I don't know what to say. I can't think of anything that is worse for fly fishing than to have fishing competitions. The target fish for fly fisherman have enough pressure with out their exploitation by tournaments and more commercialism. It is true that fly tournaments for trout return the fish to the same water but it still is exploitation of the fishery. How can anyone who loves fly fishing and respects the fish participate in a tournament. What we have now is not too bad but what can it lead to. I would hate to see the circus that BASS has made of Bass fishing happen to Trout fishing. It may be a personal problem but I think it is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!
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Lance Egan is the coolest guy I know.....he is even a master at CARP!
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Frank,

You make a great point and have a very real concern. Don't let my patriotism fool you. I would not like to see trout/fly fishing get to the same ridiculous levels of exploitation as bass fishing either. I have enjoyed the sport of bass fishing for many years and still do from time to time, as well as other forms of angling and you're right "professional" bass fishing has turned into a circus. I am relatively new to fly fishing but would like to think that fly fishing is a different mind set and most fly fisherman, at least the ones I know, have a greater understanding of the ecosystems that support the incredible resource we pursue with fly and rod, and somehow are more prone to protect it. Or maybe I just live in a fantasy?

Whatever the type of angling, there are those involved that are good stewards who want to share and educate in hopes of protecting what is dear to them, and those who could careless. So really all those who love fly fishing (or should I just say fishing?) whether for or against tournament fishing should take it personal so that the careless do not out rule the stewards as it's been the case so many times in the past.


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Hi Michael,

Some very good thoughts. I expected to see a bunch of posting on this subject but that has not happened. I would like to see some other people chime in with their ideas.

I also think that fly fishers are of a different mind-set and that is why I don't understand how anyone could compete. I would bet it has a great deal to do with ego.
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a U.S.A fly fishing team! freaking sweet!!!!! no kid ever says they wanna be a world champion fly fisherman when they grow up! too bad they never showed us this in school! so where was the high school fly fishing team when i was there! they shouldn't really compete though. just all have a good time and respect the fish and its waters. i am kinda glad fly fishing isn't popular like regular fishing. it is the funnest and best way to fish in my opinion. i don't even use my boat alot anymore . i'd rather hit the river. wait maybe i should get some sink line and fish in lake erie on my boat!! awesome! fly fishing rules!
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I think you guys who think there shouldn't be any FF'ing competition need to get out of the stone age.
It won't turn into Nascarp, or end up like the bass fishing did.
There's not enough fly fishers out there to make a dent and most bubba's wouldn't even be interested in ff'ing competetion.
As far as ego, if you've met any of the guys on the team, you'd be suprised at the lack of ego's.
I've known Lance Egan and Ryan Barnes for quite a while and I'll tell you as will fshfanatic, how cool and down to earth those two are. I met Jay Buchner and Vladi this past spring and they have less of an ego than Frank does.
The competition is not what you would call a "competition" as we know it. It's not sticking your Simms guide boots in blocks and when the gun goes off you race to your favorite part of the river before anyone else gets there.
It's timed, it's in different sections of the river/stream, it's how well you fish and can fish water you've never even seen before etc. etc. etc.
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In my conversations with both Lance and Ryan, the comraderie that exists between the members of different countries is amazing. The different techniques of fishing around the world are shared openly.
Remember, we (America) didn't invent fly fishing, the dry fly was not created until the early 20th century and nymphing has been around since Christ.
How they did in Finland NFFCClick on the turquoise colored "Team USA Finishes 6th"
I know some of you will never change your mind. I know fly fishing is a solitude thing right?
Anyway, congratulation to the USA Flyfishing team.
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Hi Mojo,

Thanks for your thoughts. I don't understand how knowing these people has anything to do with fly fishing competitions being good for fly fishing. In my opinion competition is not good for fly fishing. You are right I am in the stone age and happy to be there. Fly fishing has a great tradition and I don't see any advantage to exploiting fly fishing.

Thanks for the link. I didn't realize competition had gotten so big. I see that they are asking for 159 to 193 volunteers to work the 2007 national championship competition in Colorado. So this is not just a few good old boys in friendly competition. They may not be any purses but there are sponsors and they will make it as big as they can. In my opinion any fishing competition is about money and ego. This has the worse possible implications for fly fishing's future.
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Hi Mojo,

Thanks for your thoughts. I don't understand how knowing these people has anything to do with fly fishing competitions being good for fly fishing. In my opinion competition is not good for fly fishing. You are right I am in the stone age and happy to be there. Fly fishing has a great tradition and I don't see any advantage to exploiting fly fishing.

Thanks for the link. I didn't realize competition had gotten so big. I see that they are asking for 159 to 193 volunteers to work the 2007 national championship competition in Colorado. So this is not just a few good old boys in friendly competition. They may not be any purses but there are sponsors and they will make it as big as they can. In my opinion any fishing competition is about money and ego. This has the worse possible implications for fly fishing's future.
Ok Frank. You don't think competition is good for fly fishing. In your opinion, what is? Yes I understand it has a tradition. So what. How does world competition exploit it? Tradition. What in your mind is tardition? The fly fishing world will always have it. Do you fish with a bamboo rod and wet flies on a silk line and gut leader? I doubt it, but that's tradition. Where and when does the graphite rod with pvc coated lines with a slick never ending coating and excruded tapered leaders come into play. Isn't that deviating away from it too?
What these guys bring back to the states are the different ways of fly fishing. Expand your mind. Look how Polish nymphing is creating a fuss. Or is that just high sticking to you.
Like I said before, these guys have the same ego as you. Lance works at Cabelas, one guy from Boise is a school teacher, George Daniel is a graduate student at Penn State, another is a guide from Wyoming, so on and so on.
BTW, there is no money to be won in this competition. Corporate sponsorship from what I understand helps foot the bill. Fly fishing in the US is nowhere near the attractor as bass fishing is. How many fly fishing shows are there on TV and why don't you see the FFing World Championships on ESPN. Cause it's not a draw.
I know I'm not going to change your mind and I'm not trying to. Just want to point out there's more to it than ego and money.
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