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Old 08-21-2007, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: Creek Company Flats Raider 9 Pontoon Boat

If it were you would you go with a Scadden boat or Outcast?

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Outcast are great boats, but FYI, Scadden designed several of them before he went out on his own, an they have made no changes to them (I guess they really don't need to)
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Default Re: Creek Company Flats Raider 9 Pontoon Boat

If it were you would you go with a Scadden boat or Outcast?

Coster,

I wrote a long answer yesterday morning but lost it when I tried to submit it. So I will try again.

I don't think I should influence your choice by telling what I might do. You are doing a good job of researching toon's and the final choice should be yours. First you need to determine in your mind what your primary use will be and choose a toon that best meets your needs. If you choose a boat from Scadden, Out Cast or Bucks Bags you will have a great boat. Here are some of the things I would be thinking about.

1. Is the primary use for rivers, salt or lakes. Do you need the boat to be White Water approved by the manufacture? River boats needs some rocker built into the tube. It is not as important in a lake or salt water boat.

2. Are the oar locks adjustable fore/aft?

3. Are the foot rest adjustable?

4. Is the seat adjustable? If the oar locks and foot rests are adjustable you don't need an adjustable seat. If the seat is adjustable you don't need the oars to be adjustable. Being able to adjust the boat to fit is not as important for salt water or lakes.

5. Is the frame made from aluminum or stainless steel? Stainless may be a better choice for salt water. Is the frame painted. Painted frames may get scratched up a bit.

6. How is the anchor support constructed? Is the anchor easy to use?

7. Does the boat have a motor mount and is it removable.

8. What is the diameter of the tubes? Does the frame provide good support to the tubes so they are not displaced by striking rocks or white water. Small diameter tubes are less wind resistant and large diameter tubes have more rocker.

9. How are the pontoon shells made and how heavy is the material on the top and bottom. The bottom gets the most abuse.

10. What are the bladders made from. Poly is the best choice. Make sure they have life raft type valves. Are the valves made from brass? The best valves use to be made from brass. Some of the new plastic vales are quite good.

11. What is the back platform made from? Do you need to carry heavy or bulky loads?

12. Does the boat have saddle bags?

13. Does a pump come with the boat?

14. Is it easy to assemble? How much does it weigh?

15. Does it have a standing platform? If it does it should be easy to remove or slides under the seat when not in use. A fixed standing platform won't allow you to use flippers to help control the boat.

15. What is the length of the oars? I would not get oars shorter than 7'. The longer the tubes and the heavier the loads, the longer the oars need to be. What material are they made from? Are they one, two or three piece? I would only get three piece oars if you were packing or flying the boat.

If you compare these items against various boats you stand a good chance of getting a boat that meets your requirements. You will not find everything in one boat. The trick is to pick and choose the items that are the most important to your application.
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Right On Frank!
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: Creek Company Flats Raider 9 Pontoon Boat

I was initially looking at the Skykomish but opted for the new Madison. Shorter toons than the sky and the new improved rocker. It has all the ammenities of the sky (rear deck, casting platform with lean bar and lots of cargo space). For stillwater, I have found that it get's blown around quite a bit with a good wind.

I'd agree with an earlier post in that you would not likely find me out on the big water with a 30kt wind in a toon. A kayak, perhaps, but not a toon.
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: Creek Company Flats Raider 9 Pontoon Boat

I spoke with Dave Scadden today, He gave me some helpful insight to the new 08' models. Due to my size the length of the Skycomish is going to be my best bet. They have made several upgrades from the 07' to the 08. I really appreciate everyones input on these toons. I am going to place my order this weekend. Thanks again everyone. Tight lines!
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I think you will be happy with the Sky....a bit of advice, get the wheel when you order. It's a heavy toon to drag any distance and the wheel sure makes it easier. Well worth the little extra $....
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Are you going with the new 2008 LOW PROFILE Sky?
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