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Old 02-17-2012, 02:10 PM
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Default knots - which ones do i need to know?

searching around the net i see that there are tons of different knots and debates on which are strong or better suited for certain applications. with my spinning/baitcasting gear , i only use 3 knots. arbor for backing to spool , albright for backing to braid and braid to leader , and the palomar for tying baits/hooks to leader.
this site seems to have the best diagram of basic need-to-know knots ( Fly Fishing Knot Tying Basics | Scientific Anglers ). my question is why so many? if some knots are tried and true and others are known to fail or be weaker than the rest, why do people still use them?

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could i use the albright (which imo is a fairly small knot) for number 2-4 and the palomar for fly to tippet? or is my thinking flawed since im still new to this?

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Knots are a real matter of preference based on experience. What I may like may well not suit another person, the way to find your own go to knots will come through your continued use and trying different ties.

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Default Re: knots - which ones do i need to know?

You could but the Albright is fairly bulky for flyline to leader. A nail knot or loop to loop would serve you better there. Also the Albright works better for dissimilar size lines such as backing to flyline so the surgeon's knot is better for tippet to leader and very easy to tie. I use the Albright for backing to flyline and it is very strong there- covered with a little pliobond or equivalent it goes through the guides just fine.
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Knots are a real matter of preference based on experience. What I may like may well not suit another person, the way to find your own go to knots will come through your continued use and trying different ties.

Best I could do there,

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Ard is correct with his post, we all tie different knots and different preferences, you'll need to learn a bunch of them. Frank has posted this info.

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I use this knot for tippet to fly.

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Default Re: knots - which ones do i need to know?

I'm just learning all of my fly fishing knots, so I'm by far, no expert. That said, I've taught rope rescue for more than a decade. In rope rescue, we teach the "correct" knot for each application, with the caveat that knots are like tools in the tool box - the more well tied knots in your toolbox, the more versatile that you are.
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Default Re: knots - which ones do i need to know?

In reality, all you need to know is the uni-knot. In fact, I have two reels that only use the uni or double uni from the arbor to the tippet. None of these connections have ever failed, and if for some reason I had to rig up another reel in a hurry, I'd just tie a bunch of unis to make it happen.

But I have to admit I have a certrain pride in being able to tie all the related knots, from the arbor to the nail knot. It's just kind of fun. But IMO, there is no real reason to have to know all these knots, if all you want to do is fish.
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Default Re: knots - which ones do i need to know?

Fly lines and leaders usually come with loops these days so a simple loop to loop handshake works there. I was taught to use a nail knot to attach a small length of Amnesia memory free shooting line with a perfection loop at the end of the fly line. I prefer the loop to loop though - seems smoother - less snagging in the last guide.
My favorite way to learn knots is from youtube vids. So much clearer than diagrams. Some sites have animated gifs that are pretty cool too.
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agree loop to loop, get to now the Perfection knot
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Default Re: knots - which ones do i need to know?

Based entirely on where the knot goes and the strength of the knot I only use the following. Nail Knot (not on all of my fly lines), Perfection loop, blood knot and trilene knot. That'd going from the fly line to the fly. In some cases I add the bimini twist, albright knot, and the twist melt. I don't generally fish light lines or small fish though so you may want to add some knots like the orvis loop or something along those lines to your inventory.
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