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Old 02-19-2012, 06:55 PM
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This is not really a about rod cost, but casting style . Learning to cast anything put into your hands.
The difference between a 30 dollar rod (built right) and a high dollar rod should be no different if you master the art of casting ..other then the art of rod buying.
I don't know...what about "tracking"? Don't you think the more advanced rod technology has brought more fine tuning to accuracy in a cast?
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Old 02-19-2012, 07:58 PM
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I have been fly fishing for close to 20 years. I have owned or fished with almost every rod make that I can think of. I have owned cheap rods and expensive rods. I agree that a $1,000 rod isn't going to make anyone cast much better. I do believe that the nicer rods make the job easier. Meaning I can cast a $30 rod almost as well as I can cast an expensive Sage. The Sage being lighter, makes the job easier, less tiring, therefore it makes me a slightly better caster. Now I will say I have had many rods, both cheap and expensive. I have settled on about 3 rods that I fish 95% of the time. They are all mid level Orvis rods that are 10 years old. My brother works for one of the big rod companies. I get to fish pretty much any of the rods they make whenever I ask, (just tried out the 7wt switch rod, amazing) I have pretty much liked everything I have tried, but don't see the need to own a $800 5 weight. However, the $300 I spent on my 5 weight was money well spent, because I can cast it better than any cheaper fly rod.
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my thoughts really quick
my two favorite small stream rods are-
sage vt2 479-4 at a price $460
albright gp 7'6" 3 weight price $45
i love both rods but for totally different reasons.


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Last fall I tied an 11 weight DT line to the tip of an 8 foot long, 3.5 inch wide by one half inch thick piece of base board I had just finished making and gave it a whirl. I could cast the line at the length I had tied on and turn it right over. Would I consider going fishing with that piece of base.................... I agree with both of you
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Ard, Don't fish with the board-rod; all you will catch are tree trout!
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I will say that a good line will make a larger difference then a cheap-o line. The rods just help smooth out what you already do. i also think weight is a big factor with buying the higher dollar rods. i went from a St. Croix Reign 8wt to a Sage Vantage 8 wt, the sage is double the price and weights less then half what the Reign did. That will really come into play when fishing long days with those big rods with big flies. I cant tell you how much my arm and shoulder is sore after flinging that old heavy 8wt with half a chicken on the end of it around for 6 hours. its exhausting.
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This is an interesting thread. I too have been fly fishing for a long time, over 50 years using bambo to the new boron. With rod prices going crazy (Winston's now at close to $800), I've given a lot of thought about cheaper, but good, rods for my grandchildren.

I'm reminded about an incident a few years ago when I was in the front yard lawn testing my new $600 Winston. A neighbor, new to fly fishing, saw me casting and brought his $50 fly rod over to ask me if it was an ok rod for casting or should he upgrade to a more expensive rod. I cast his whole line out with his rod and did some shorter casts to various spots on the lawn. The rod did just fine although it was slow as molasses. Your point is well taken that the caster has to adjust to the rod to make it do the job as intended. Now, would I trade my Winston for the $50 rod?? No. However, I will be able to find good quality rods for my grandchildren that will do the job intended and for a much better price than the new Winston's.
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Fact is some of the cheaper rods have better design than some of the more expensive rods. Its not a matter of price or "good" vs "bad", but rather what feels good to you. Most of us can take pretty much any rod and make a good day of fishing with it. After all it is just that.....fishing. However as we advance, we develop what we think are more desirable qualities in a fly rod. Can I cast just fine with a slow wobbly rod? Yes, but its not a quality that I find desirable in the least (some do). For me it has become an obsession with SWING WEIGHT, SWING WEIGHT, SWING WEIGHT. I find that a rod that feels heavy in the tip is not one that I prefer. Some wont even notice. I have come to like the lightest and fastest of rods for most of my fishing. Some might find these rods to be impossible to deal with on a day to day basis where as I feel it a pleasure. Are the faster rods usually a bit more expensive? For the most part yes but not always. While casting at the Somerset show a few weeks I thought a 300 dollar rod I was playing with was much better than many 700 dollar rods I casted that day. It had the qualities I look for in a rod, and some of the big boys didnt. Its all a metter of prefeance. Ok.. enough of my rambling...
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Last fall I tied an 11 weight DT line to the tip of an 8 foot long, 3.5 inch wide by one half inch thick piece of base board I had just finished making and gave it a whirl. I could cast the line at the length I had tied on and turn it right over.
Here's my witch stick, Ard. I put a 12 wt on it and nearly threw my hauling arm out of it's socket before I got the whole head out. The problem was not so much the short length, but mostly incredible wind resistance against the thick and very light broomstick. I'm surprised by ex wife was able to ride it without bending it in half and crashing.

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Now, would I trade my Winston for the $50 rod?? No. However, I will be able to find good quality rods for my grandchildren that will do the job intended and for a much better price than the new Winston's.
There are great deals on used rods out there now. I posted up one which I think is a good deal, and will be checking there often for "just one more" rod I really need.
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