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Old 08-29-2007, 10:38 PM
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Hi guys/girls,

Great forum you've got here. I've been browsing/lurking the last few days, and have been glad I found this place. (I also apologize if new member threads go elsewhere, I don't mean to keep moderators any busier than they are :P)

I suppose I can't quite say I am new to fly fishing just yet, because I have yet to make a single cast. But I can say I am incredibly excited to start learning.

I plan on picking up a rod/reel combo and some basic flies this weekend, and trying to get out as much as possible.

What I was wondering is if there is anything you would recommend to get, or advise to avoid, when getting started?

The combo I plan on getting is a Cabelas Cahill 5wt. I don't know yet about flies - I'm hoping the staff at the store will be able to point me in the right direction for some that work in the fall; mostly trout, some for bass.

Unfortunately, I don't have super great access to a nice stream/river at most times, but several times a year I do spend a weekend near the Manistee and Muskegon rivers (in Michigan), and I hear they are good locations. They are gorgeous, that I do know.

Thanks in advance - I'm looking forward to learning a lot, and hopefully I can have something to share in return at some point

Edit: Doh! I just noticed the member intro. section. Sorry, mods.
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Default Re: New Member: Wanting to start, seeking pre-purchase advice

Hi Joshua,

Welcome to the forum. You are smart to seek advice before your purchase.

First let me say that I have not cast or even seen the Cabela's Cahill rod. I would be concerned that it may not be much of a rod for 30 bucks. Talk to the salesmen and maybe he will make a recommendation. Buying a real cheap rod and using it for a short time and then upgrading is money wasted. I see you are a young fella and money might be important to you. I would rather see you fishing with a stick than not fishing at all. I am hoping another poster who is familiar with the Cahil rod will give their opinion of the rod.
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:16 AM
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Welcome to NAFFF. You will find a lot of expertise here. As for Cabela's equipment, I know little. However, if you can wait for a couple of days or have an Orvis store near you, Orvis has some good beginning outfits for less than $100. They have a Streamline, 5 wt. 8"6", midflex that would probably do what you need to begin. Before you purchase anything give their web page a looksee.
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:23 AM
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Hi guys/girls,

Great forum you've got here. I've been browsing/lurking the last few days, and have been glad I found this place. (I also apologize if new member threads go elsewhere, I don't mean to keep moderators any busier than they are :P)

I suppose I can't quite say I am new to fly fishing just yet, because I have yet to make a single cast. But I can say I am incredibly excited to start learning.

I plan on picking up a rod/reel combo and some basic flies this weekend, and trying to get out as much as possible.

What I was wondering is if there is anything you would recommend to get, or advise to avoid, when getting started?

The combo I plan on getting is a Cabelas Cahill 5wt. I don't know yet about flies - I'm hoping the staff at the store will be able to point me in the right direction for some that work in the fall; mostly trout, some for bass.

Unfortunately, I don't have super great access to a nice stream/river at most times, but several times a year I do spend a weekend near the Manistee and Muskegon rivers (in Michigan), and I hear they are good locations. They are gorgeous, that I do know.

Thanks in advance - I'm looking forward to learning a lot, and hopefully I can have something to share in return at some point

Edit: Doh! I just noticed the member intro. section. Sorry, mods.
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I second Frnk's retort...I noticed your "through the lens" reference if that's your profession...serious avocation...then I doubt your lens/box is a walmart throw a way...flyfishing deserves similar treatment...first you are in a fly state....go to one of the old time fly shops...take lessons...then buy from them to get started..yes it might cost initially a bit more but long haul not so...start with an excellent rod and it will last a lifetime...just like fine glass...my 28 1.4 AF nikkor will and has last a lifetime
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:51 AM
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Thanks for the replies!

I will definitely check out the Orvis options. In the last week I've been visiting almost every fly fishing website I could come across, and Orvis was a name I saw often; it was also something I began to associate with very very pricey - but if they've got beginner outfits, I'm definitely interested.

I had found a 2-day class they had in northern Michigan, and although it won't be something I could attend this year, I'm really looking forward to it, or an alternative, for next year.

Thanks again, I really do appreciate it. I will be trying to do as much reviewing as possible before any purchases.

I wish I had started this venture back in the spring. After buying books for school, I'm sure my wallet would have some choice words for me if it knew I was up to more spending
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:17 PM
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I purchased one of these cheap combo's and while it worked the casting was not great....might have had something to do with me.

As far as Cabela's, their combos are pretty good for the money, they will come with all the backing line, fly line you'll need and a leader. I used the folks at Cabela's to bounce ideas off of and ended up purchasing what I currently fish with. I think the cheapest was around $75.

The one thing I have read is that most combos come with very cheap line and that is one of the biggest things in fly fishing, good line. I know Cabela's puts a weight forward line on their combos, which should help your casting.

Now might not be a bad time to come to the sport, end of season, close-outs and sales should abound in the sporting good stores, including fly fishing stores.

The best thing you can do is research, ask a bunch of question and then look around. One week after I purchased my outfit, a co-worker showed up with a Temple Fork 6/7 wt with case and all the line, etc and was asking around $100. I of course, just purchased a 6/7 wt so it was of no use to me.....check ebay if you know what you want.
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Old 08-30-2007, 09:36 PM
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I have found that if you visit a Cabela's they will put together special pricing for you if the rod, reel, line and backing is purchased at the same time. Temple Fork has the NXT combo that is a good value. The blank used on the rod is the same as used in the TFO professional series. If you are truely going to make the step do not throw good money after bad, try to get the best equipment you can afford. If possible get a lesson and try some of the rods in the shop. There are many helpful and knowledgable people on this sight. Good luck
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:06 PM
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josh, you have to stop giving away those freebie web design jobs! :-)

that caelas combo you mentioned will catch fish, but you might try, like others ave said, to look into other options. personally, for me, tat "graphite" reel seat would turn me off. there are many on a fly discussion list who actually really like the cabelas three forks rod. hard to beat the price. pesonally, i went for a temple fork outfitters professional rod for my first and have had no remorse.

the cabelas combos do lack in the line department. my buddy bought a cabelas stowaway combo and they threw in the cheap line. cabelas prestige plus lines are much nicer. there are a few relatively good inexpensive lines out there as options to the premium $60-$65 price range most recommend, and it's true, the line is very important. but a nice $35-$50 line works pretty good too.

my buddy's stowaway combo also included a cabela's prestige reel. yuch thought i. too chintzy for me. again, there are nice options out there. an orvis battenkill is something i recommend often and at $79 a good value. maybe $89 for the mid size reel.

this is a good time to start shopping around like another said. many closeouts abound in the coming months. you mentioned this weekend and i know the feeling, but if you can borrow first, patience may pay off.

bonefish41... i still LOVE my nikkor AIS 24/1.4! and 28/2.0 and 34/1.4... i shoot canon now for work but i dearly miss my nikons.

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Old 08-31-2007, 12:53 PM
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stevensj2 -- If you are looking into some used equipment try the local Craigs List web sight. I have bought and sold equipment on this sight before. If you find something of interest you can always solicit more advise on this sight.
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Old 08-31-2007, 01:36 PM
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Default Re: New Member: Wanting to start, seeking pre-purchase advice

Thanks again everyone, I'm finding your opinions/advice to be very helpful.

I did look into the TFO options, and some of them look very appealing.
This rod is one I was interested in:
Temple Fork Outfitters Lefty Kreh Signature Series Fly Rods

Though I would like to purchase a combo; I don't want to complicate things and get into this reel vs that reel, lines, leaders, etc.

These outfits also looked interesting:
Temple Fork Outfitters NXT Outfits

The price is a little higher than I'd like for my very first set up, but if the quality is substantially better and this is a sport that I will really enjoy, I can see it being worth the extra $$. Their lifetime warranty seems like a great deal, as well.

Does anyone have any expirience, comments/opinions about the TFO products?

I also plan on getting a 5wt (maybe 6wt) rod. What sort of length should I look into?

I will mostly use it for trout in streams/rivers when I get the chance, but I also forsee some bass/bluegill fishing when the oppertunity arrises.

Thanks again everyone, the help has been really great!
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