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Old 03-02-2012, 11:04 AM
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I find myself watching more videos on vimeo than anywhere else, though I do DVR a lot of shows, mostly about fly fishing. As a new fly fisherman, I like the thought of educational content, but not the sort that requires a full cutaway but just the fisherman briefly explaining what he's doing as he does them. This could even be the format like seen in the "Unhooked" version of "River Monsters" where it shows the text at the bottom, the sort of director's cut type thing. Plus I really like Jeremy Wade, he may be polarizing, I don't even know, but he entertains me, regularly shows that its not all about success, and shows some crazy locales. To return to the idea of educational info as part of the main segment, I feel the same about conservation content. I have seen some shows where the fishing sometimes seems questionable (pulling fish off redds and such) while others are very interested in conservation. The latter are far more preferable to me. Lately the best example has come from "Buccaneers and Bones," another entertaining show. They have a lot of segments that are at least partially focused on conservation, but also bring in celebrities to fish, who may or may not be talented fishermen, but are almost always eager to learn and good presences on the screen.

I agree with JJ, most TV shows need sponsors to survive, but I don't need to be bashed with them. If the guide needs to wear a shirt emblazoned with a company logo, fine. But I don't need him to spend the entire segment trying to sell me something, it's interrupting my videography and fish porn, as JJ said. This may be what drives me to Vimeo.

I, like Dan, am interested in what shows you're pursuing JR, and also wish you good luck. I very much appreciate that you are reaching out to improve your programs. And if you're ever doing a segment near Buffalo, NY or Sarasota, FL, I'd be happy to help with audio/visual... I'm nowhere near talented enough to be IN FRONT of the camera
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Old 03-02-2012, 02:55 PM
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Diver Dan, Agreed on the fake stuff. Did a duck hunting show for some guys to film at one of my honey holes. We had fun but a lot of fake scenes that would almost never happen in the real world. Personaly i'd like to see more real world shows involving real people and not some high paid dignatary struting his stuff that some sponser paid for. I can stand the real stuff so roll the camera for us in the right direction.
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eddy - I often get the same response.


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I find myself watching more videos on vimeo than anywhere else, though I do DVR a lot of shows, mostly about fly fishing. As a new fly fisherman, I like the thought of educational content, but not the sort that requires a full cutaway but just the fisherman briefly explaining what he's doing as he does them. This could even be the format like seen in the "Unhooked" version of "River Monsters" where it shows the text at the bottom, the sort of director's cut type thing. Plus I really like Jeremy Wade, he may be polarizing, I don't even know, but he entertains me, regularly shows that its not all about success, and shows some crazy locales. To return to the idea of educational info as part of the main segment, I feel the same about conservation content. I have seen some shows where the fishing sometimes seems questionable (pulling fish off redds and such) while others are very interested in conservation. The latter are far more preferable to me. Lately the best example has come from "Buccaneers and Bones," another entertaining show. They have a lot of segments that are at least partially focused on conservation, but also bring in celebrities to fish, who may or may not be talented fishermen, but are almost always eager to learn and good presences on the screen.

I agree with JJ, most TV shows need sponsors to survive, but I don't need to be bashed with them. If the guide needs to wear a shirt emblazoned with a company logo, fine. But I don't need him to spend the entire segment trying to sell me something, it's interrupting my videography and fish porn, as JJ said. This may be what drives me to Vimeo.

I, like Dan, am interested in what shows you're pursuing JR, and also wish you good luck. I very much appreciate that you are reaching out to improve your programs. And if you're ever doing a segment near Buffalo, NY or Sarasota, FL, I'd be happy to help with audio/visual... I'm nowhere near talented enough to be IN FRONT of the camera
Right on the money (pardon pun) with your comment about the need for sponsors. The fact is, a lot of these shows have to operate with relatively small budgets. Without the sponsors, there would be no way to make shows. Not to mention, I'd be out of a job. LOL, just kidding. The key is to find a balance that works for everyone. It's a tougher juggling act than you may think. :-(

I can't tell you guys enough, how helpful your comments are. Everybody here as been so willing to help. You guys all made/make me feel welcome. Not only are you guys taking the survey, but also taking the time to write all these comments. I was hoping for people to take the survey, but I had not expected that so many of you would take the time to write comments on the thread as well. What a wonderful surprise. I'm finding this part of the participation and feedback to be AT LEAST as helpful and insightful as the survey.

I'm so touched to see that some of you guys/gals are actually thanking me. You guys here are seriously "alright"!!! When I see a sentence like this, it solidifies the feeling of gratitude I have for this awesome community you guys have created here... "I very much appreciate that you are reaching out to improve your programs." Thanks, and we are in this together.

I am from NY originally, although I've lived in Florida for years and years. Fishing up-state NY is wonderful. Also Sarasota are is killer! I was there last week shooting some stand-ups/on-cam pieces. We slid the boat in across the causeway at Ken Thompson ramp. Last season, I also did an episode from Boca Grande.

BTW - I love Buccaneers. It's an excellent show. Subtle, compelling, excellent production value.
Please keep the comments coming, and perhaps encourage anglers you know (but don't frequent this site) to come here and join the conversation and take the survey for me, for us.


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Old 03-03-2012, 05:50 PM
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Hey guys and gals, the survey will be closing out tonight. If you have not taken the survey yet, are have not shared the link with family, friends and fellow anglers yet, this is the last opportunity to do so. I'd like to get more responses before it closes out. Please share the link from the start of this thread with anyone you can think of.

For those that gave feedback on this topic and took the survey, I can't tell you how grateful I am. The comments were at least as important as the survey questions. I never imagined I would also get feedback through so many comments, but what a pleasant surprise.

Also, a big round of applause to this forum for helping out! Thanks for allowing this discussion to be played out.

Thanks again,

James

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