The North American Fly Fishing Forum


Go Back   The North American Fly Fishing Forum > General Fly Fishing Discussion > General Discussion

General Discussion General discussions regarding fly fishing as a whole. Ask questions. Get answers...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 09-07-2007, 10:47 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 7
digitalbiker is on a distinguished road
Default Newbie Question about casting in tight spots

Do any of you have any tips for getting line out in a small stream with lots of vegetation on the banks?

Generally where I have been fishing lately there is too much brush to do a full cast so I have been using a roll cast. However I have been having trouble getting line out in advance to make a decent roll cast.

I either tangle it in some of the brush, or it drops in the stream and gets carried swiftly downstream making my roll cast a little more difficult.

I still can manage a 20+ ft roll cast upstream but it comes back pretty fast in the swift current. I was just wondering if this is part of the joy of fishing small streams or if I am doing something wrong.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 09-08-2007, 09:16 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 78
OregonStreams is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Newbie Question about casting in tight spots

Quote:
Originally Posted by digitalbiker View Post
Do any of you have any tips for getting line out in a small stream with lots of vegetation on the banks?
It helps if you become an expert in the sidearm cast. One trick, is to let the line go downstream and straighten out, while pointing the rod downstream. Then lift the line out of the water and cast the fly upstream in a smooth motion.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 09-09-2007, 10:52 AM
Frank Whiton's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 5,301
Frank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to Frank Whiton
Default Re: Newbie Question about casting in tight spots

Hi digitalbiker,

It sounds like you are doing alright. You say that the stream has brush on the banks. Is there limbs overhead or is it clear over the stream? Can you wade into the stream and cast up or down stream?
__________________
Click the image to open in full size.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 09-09-2007, 11:05 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 80
jdgrubbjr is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Newbie Question about casting in tight spots

Good advice from OregonStreams. Some other things to consider are rod length, leader length, and stealth. Unorthodox casting techniques are the rule rather than the exception on several of the creeks that I fish. In the past, I have gone as far as fishing "half" of a two-piece rod to be able to fish where low overhead canopies and brushy banks existed. I now use a 6'-6" three weight for my small streams (and I mean small) that are "choked" with brush, and I normally use a 7-1/2' leader. Sometimes fishing from the knees is required, more for the stealth aspect than the casting, although both sometimes apply. Don't worry as much about casting distance in "choked" small stream fishing situations. Concentrate on accuracy and stealth. And as OregonStreams said, become proficient at sidearm casting.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 09-09-2007, 07:03 PM
Jackster's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: NC
Posts: 1,647
Jackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant futureJackster has a brilliant future
Default Re: Newbie Question about casting in tight spots

First post and I'm already offering suggestions!

As someone who fished small streams a lot I find the roll cast is the cast used a large majority of the time up in the mountains.
We sometimes wade all day never using a proper back cast. Add a few spey casting tricks lets you roll cast on any side of the stream
If you know how to overhand cast you already know how to roll cast... just add water! It is next to impossible to practice the roll cast without the resistance of water or without using special leaders with long tags to catch on the grass.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bluegill on a Fly Rod ?? tie one on Warmwater Fly Fishing 77 03-07-2009 05:43 PM
Hawaii Oio (bonefish) Stan Wright Saltwater Fly Fishing 0 04-18-2007 02:57 AM
Hawaii Tukes on the Fly Stan Wright Pacific Ocean 1 06-25-2006 08:47 AM
Welcome, lvs2fsh! Fish Bones Member Introductions 0 05-16-2005 06:27 PM













All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
2005-2014 The North American Fly Fishing Forum. All rights reserved.