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Old 03-29-2012, 10:27 AM
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has any one heard of the new turbine drag system yet? It is supposed to be a propeller and a fluid that increases drag as the fish runs faster.
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Old 03-29-2012, 10:53 AM
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An Argentinian reel co called STH debuted those nearly ten years ago. I don't know about the engineering merits of the drag system itself, but I don't think those reels sold all that well.

From what I recall, the drag protruded beyond the reels backplate, and was above the spindle, so it probably didn't balance as well as a drag that's closer to the reel's center of gravity.
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Default Re: new drag system

hmm well the concept of the drag makes a whole lot of sense but idk if it would necessarily be better than anything else
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has any one heard of the new turbine drag system yet? It is supposed to be a propeller and a fluid that increases drag as the fish runs faster.
Makes no sense to me.

I'd want a consistent drag that does NOT depend on how fast the line is going out. The faster the line goes out, you want the reel drag to be less. The more line that out, the water drag on the line increases. This water drag is added to the reel drag so you need to back off the drag.

Plus the forced need to turn the spool increases as the line goes out. The working radius of the reel decreases as the line goes out, and more force is needed to rotate the reel spindle against the drag setting. The drag is resistance of the spool against turning, and the force needed to turn the spool varies with how much line is on the spool
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Default Re: new drag system

I remember when those first came out several years ago. Funky-looking things. Might work, but I wouldn't want it to increase drag as it ran faster - especially when trout fishing with light tippets.

Seems like one of those "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" situations to me.
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any pics of this reel?
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Default Re: new drag system

Isn't the purpose of the drag to slow the fish by making it work against a resistance while not exceeding the strength of the tippet? I'd think that when a fish is that strong, the last thing I want to do is clamp down the drag a little more unless I'm about to be spooled.
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Isn't the purpose of the drag to slow the fish by making it work against a resistance while not exceeding the strength of the tippet? I'd think that when a fish is that strong, the last thing I want to do is clamp down the drag a little more unless I'm about to be spooled.
Have to agree there! If the fish takes off on you the drag would end up snapping your leader.
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Makes no sense to me.

I'd want a consistent drag that does NOT depend on how fast the line is going out. The faster the line goes out, you want the reel drag to be less. The more line that out, the water drag on the line increases. This water drag is added to the reel drag so you need to back off the drag.

Plus the forced need to turn the spool increases as the line goes out. The working radius of the reel decreases as the line goes out, and more force is needed to rotate the reel spindle against the drag setting. The drag is resistance of the spool against turning, and the force needed to turn the spool varies with how much line is on the spool
Silver: That reminds me of fishing on the Missouri last spring. We were catching fish at a good rate but once in a while we would hook into a really big trout and he would run straight down river in the slack water along the shore and then hook out into the heavy current in the middle and start running back up river towards us. We could only follow the fish so far down the shore line before running into obstacles. The result was that we had all this line out in a big "J" pattern as the fish keep swimming up river and the drag from the line in the water just keep increasing and eventually the fish would break off even though we were using 2x tippet
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I would think the drag would become less resistance as the turbine (propeller?) spins. As the fluid is put in motion it should offer less resistance as the "flow" increases.
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