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Opening is coming up and It will be stocked with trout. They stocked in 3-10-12. It's really simple ? what's a pattern to fish with for stockie's. Opening day alway's have mosquito's and gnat's on the water and there rising til about noon time every year. So I thinking about using a #16 Mosquito and a #20 Gnat maybe even a #16/#18 March Brown. Any1 know know some good fly pattern's for stocked trout I live in South NJ. By the way this is my 1st time fly fishing for trout.
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Hi Angelo,

Whenever I watched people fishing for stocked trout I noticed how many fish were caught on small spinning lures. looking all the way back to the first trout I ever caught, the fish had chased and hit a small CP Swing lure. When considering the fly rod the logical choice became a white marabou muddler. If I found myself visiting at a cabin on Pennsylvania's Little Pine Creek at or near the season opener I tied on a white marabou muddler with a silver tinsel body and was able to catch quite a few fish.

The fish will be taking things off the surface but the sub surface fly being stripped as it swung with the current produced more fish than a dry fly would do. I understand how seeing a fish grab a dry fly is quite a thrill for a person new to fly fishing but learning how to use a slightly larger subsurface fly will serve you well as you grow into fishing.

If you are not tying flies, the pattern I point to here is readily available in most fly shops. You may find that a size 6 or 8 will be easier to cast until you get the hang of it. Once you are handling the cast you can move that size up to a #4, if you figure the size will help. if you are releasing the fish be sure to crimp down the barb on the hook and if you are new to casting or using a larger fly the crimping thing is also a safety thing.

There are a wide variety of books and videos available that instruct on fishing a streamer or buck tail fly. Since you have some time I would advise reading a bit so that you can better grasp the concepts of fishing a sunken fly as a live 'bait'. Whether you are going fishing or taking any other sort of test, a little study and reading will always pay off when it's time for the exam.

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Ard gives good advice above. In addition you may consider researching a hatch chart for the region you will be fishing and specific streams. This will give you information on what naturals will be around so you can imitate them. Inquiries can be made at local fly shops as well, they usually have accurate info on what is working currently and historically.
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Stocked trout in South Jersey are going to be coming off a diet of pellets. It takes a few weeks for them to start taking dry flies, and Ard's advice about subsurface flies is right on target. I'd try a Gold Ribbed Hare's Ear with a gold bead head, Green Weenies, and Wooly Buggers as well. You can strip the Wooly Bugger in if your in still water, or swing it in the current on a stream. The other two flies can be swung in a current, and stocked trout will hit them hard enough that you'll know when they've taken the fly. In still water, the GRHE and Green Weenie can be inched slowly along, and you'll either see the tip of the line stop, or feel the take when they've taken your fly. Set the hook and reel 'em in. Freshly stocked trout like flashy flies, so buy or tie them with some ice dubbing, flashabou, gold beads, etc.
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Frank makes a great point about the pellets!! It has been quite a few years since I fished for stockers. One memory that lingers is fishing some private water in PA. The land owner above the stretch we were fishing fed pellets to his fish. Many would float down to the stretch we were on and the fish would get after them hard. I had a couple of Yuk Bugs in my box, They are just brown chenille and white rubber legs. I took one and cut the rubber legs off so it would look like the pellets. Then just dead drifted it through the seams. Worked like a charm!!
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Hi Dave I was going to mention the infamous Pellet Fly, but didn't want to go down that road.... I use a #12 Gold Ribbed Hare's Ear as a pellet imitation, and can pretend that the stockers thought it was a nymph. I've run into guys that use spun deer hair to make pellet imitations, and they do really well. I've noticed that stocked trout on streams start to take #16 Blue Winged Olives after they've been in the "wild" for a few weeks, and sedge/caddis hatches are already coming off here in SE Pennsylvania (#14 and #16)
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Ard is on the money with the marabou and tinsel subsurface fly for stockers. Anything with flash (anything with flashabou tied in) seems to be deadly on newly stocked trout. When teaching children and grandchildren to fly fish always saved opening day for them and usually give them a fly tied with pearl flashabou and nothing else . They always caught fish. Got them excited so later in life they would want to learn more and learn how to catch the wild ones . Good luck on your opener!
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stocked rainbows on a 3wt... what a blast!
I have been using the two on the left in #12 for lake fish, dropped under a black foam beetle and twitched occasionally to draw strikes. It could be mistaken for a damsel, drake nymph, stonefly, or a minnow when retrieved. Also works for crappie and blue gill I found out (and I presume a bass soon enough).
Caught ~35 stocker rainbows in an afternoon at Gross Res., about 10 on the beetle, 25 on the dropper.
Maybe a stimulator/chironomid combo? Cricket/leech?
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little swarms of fish would come to inspect anything that was not dropped immediately overhead, racing each other to the flies...
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I love that the Pellet fly has reared its little brown head!

I was invited to fish a stretch of the famous Spruce Creek here in PA. It was aprivate stretch maintained by a club. They fed the fish regularly.

After a day spent throwing everything in my box and being frustrated beyond endurance, my buddy came down stream and sat down beside me. He laughed at my frustration, and then took my leader, clipped off the Otter Nymph that I had on, and tied on a little brown deer hair ball, maybe a size 14. The first drift of the floating "pellet" produced an 18 inch rainbow. Lesson learned.
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I love that the Pellet fly has reared its little brown head!

I was invited to fish a stretch of the famous Spruce Creek here in PA. It was aprivate stretch maintained by a club. They fed the fish regularly.

After a day spent throwing everything in my box and being frustrated beyond endurance, my buddy came down stream and sat down beside me. He laughed at my frustration, and then took my leader, clipped off the Otter Nymph that I had on, and tied on a little brown deer hair ball, maybe a size 14. The first drift of the floating "pellet" produced an 18 inch rainbow. Lesson learned.
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Really funny you mention Spruce Creek, That is exactly where my little story took place!! LOL. I won't mention whose property we were fishing though.
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