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Old 09-13-2012, 10:33 AM
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Around these parts we call them "Mollyguppers", but they are just a fresh water Sculpin, and big fall Brownies love them. I have been tying the Whitlock version and Zoo Cougars, and they both work. I like both flies, but with the deer hair heads they are hard to get deep. I have seen pictures of the Shiela sculpin, but have never tied them. I've also noticed that the big adult Brownies seem to be pretty finicky about what flies they will take. What pattern do you folks prefer?
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I like a lightly weighted marabou muddler. Sometimes I think there is too much emphasis on getting streamers deep, think about it when does the prey ever dive towards the predator? I like just enough weight to keep the bug from skating up in the film on the swing/strip, also keeping the heads somewhat loose and not so dense help too. There's video of Gallup fishing streamers where he does fish a sinking line but his flies are unweighted so they bobble up on the pause between strips.
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Default Re: Mollyguppers

I like Powell's Bunny Sculpin, heavy, but I'm looking for aggro fish when using it so I like the action, especially in faster water. Good for smallmouth too. milt.
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Default Re: Mollyguppers

I looked up the Powell .....seemed like an easy enough tie. I will definitely give it a whirl! Thanks!
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Default Re: Mollyguppers

Sculpins stay on the bottom, so having a streamer that stays close to the bottom IS important in a sculpin pattern. Sculpins have big, wide heads and narrowing bodies. Most species have various kinds of dark stripes running across back and sides against a lighter background, usually dark brownish olive stripes and light olive background.

Keeping that in mind, I tie a very simple rabbit and red squirrel pattern to imitate sculpins. Take a long-shank streamer hook. Start by tying either a dark brown or light olive strip of red squirrel for a tail. Then starting at the base of the tail, tie in the contrasting color (light olive if you have a dark tail, dark brown if you have a light olive tail) of cross cut rabbit strip, winding it about halfway up the shank without bunching it. Then take the other color of cross cut rabbit and continue up a little farther, again without bunching it. Tie on lead dumbbell eyes a little ahead of where the rabbit stopped. Then go back again to where the rabbit stopped and tie in the contrasting color, over the eyes and slightly ahead of them, and bunching it a little more so that it is a little thicker. Finish off the head. What you end up with is a narrow-tailed, slightly wider bodied, thick-headed streamer with dark/light/dark/light pattern in the typical sculpin colors. I've caught a pile of nice fish on the Yellowstone and other Montana rivers on this fly, as well as some big browns in wild trout streams in Missouri. I also tie it in all black as an all-purpose dark streamer, and with twin tails as a generalized crayfish pattern.
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