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Old 09-13-2012, 10:44 AM
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In the quest to build a better beveller I've got some pretty sound advice on how to put together a rougher not unlike Bellinger's Little Giant. I found a good electric motor that has a 2" long keyed shaft, now what do I need to mount my cutters? An adapter with a toothed end to accecpt the cutting wheels? This tool is entirely new to me and need some guidence as to how to turn it into a milling machine any help is greatly appreciated!
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Default Re: Any machinists out there?

Been in the Tool & Die making biz for more years than I can remember.
I not too familiar with the Bellinger's Little Giant.
I guess the first thing I would need to know is what the mounting arrangement is on your cutters? 1/4 shaft? 1/2 I.D.? Once we know that then we can find the same type of mounting arrangement and figure out how to attach it to your 2" long keyed shaft. Hopefully we can modify the toolholder to fit on your shaft.
You would want to do this to keep the shaft/toolholder length as short as possible. Will need to know dia. of 2" long keyed shaft and size of key eventually to modify an existing holder. But if your mounting set-up for your cutters is simple enough maybe easier just to make a tool holder.

I have a cnc mill and some lathes and other odds and ends in my garage/workshop so that I maybe can help you out if possible. If it requires more than I have I still have contacts for getting something done.
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Default Re: Any machinists out there?

It's suprising The Topics we have here,it doesn't matter on what subject there's always someone who is willing to help.
I'm with Klunker,with a similiar background,I'm also unfamiliar with Belinger's Little Giant.
Just a couple of questions which might help configure what you need as making what you need shouldn't be The difficult Part with Lunkers Gear & contacts.
Firstly: What type of Work do you envisage doing?
Secondly: I presume you want to fit an adaptor to The Keyed Shaft & actually make a Router,am I correct?
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Default Re: Any machinists out there?

Here'a a link:

Bamboo Rod-Making Machines and Equipment :: "Little Giant" Rougher - Genuine Bellinger Reel Seats, Bamboo Rods and Rod-Making Equipment

Site has some fine bamboo rod, components, reels, and tools.

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Default Re: Any machinists out there?

If your going to us a router bit on the rougher why not try to get an adjustable drill chuck onto the shaft? When you get this figured out put me down for the first finished blank your willing to part with.
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Default Re: Any machinists out there?

There is a better picture of that machine on the bottom of this page.

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It looks to be powered by a portercable router using the router bits pictured. Those routers turn 23,000 to 30,000 RPM. You can pick one up for practically nothing used. The cutters pictured are about $200 bucks from Bellinger, but you could probably find something to work from Whiteside or Velepec - and they could well be manufactured by one of them for Bellinger.

However (though this is off your topic and probably unwelcome) having designed and built many fixtures and one pretty elaborate automatic machine myself (using as many off-the-shelf componenets as possible), I would say that if you can find something that will already work for your purpose - you will be way ahead of the game by just buying it.
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Buying the premade stuff isn't really an option. Bellinger's Little Giant is 1300 and a medved from JW is around 850 and change. The keyed shaft from my motor is 5/8 x 2", if I can figure out what adapter I need to mount two cutting wheels then I can figure out how to mount an adjustable bed to rough the strips to 3/8 give or take.
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What is the diameter of your cutters and the motor RPM?
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Bellinger sells their bits on a very limited basis, I already tried that route. I've got a little more research to do and I'll be able to figure out what size cutters I'll need and then figure out arbor adapters from there. Belive me I'd like nothing more than to pick up the Little Giant however at 1300 its not in my budget and the Medved style works but I'm trying to eliminate un-neccesary steps.
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Default Re: Any machinists out there?

When milling something as small as what you are doing from a material like wood or bamboo using router type bits, I'm guessing you will need at least 15,000 rpms. Bosch makes a variable speed router for about $150 new, 8,000 - 25,000 rpm or so. I'm sure you could find a used one cheap.

What RPM does the Bellinger run at?
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