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Old 10-04-2012, 09:57 PM
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is there any difference between the leader of a sinking or floating line?
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That's up to you and what you want to accomplish with the leader. For example with the sinking line do you want your fly to bounce on the bottom? Or would you like it to swim just above the bottom? The right leader and fly can accomplish this. Same goes for a floating line .
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Default Re: sinking line leader

When fishing for steelhead in faster water, I've even "cheated" and put 5' of lead core trolling line before my leader just go get the flies down. But the leader would be the same past that point for either sinking or floating line. The leader is pretty much neutral buoyancy.
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Short reply, yes! Longer reply it depends on many things and here's a couple. A sinking leader usually can be shorter and therefore more easily handled. Dry fly mono rules while some say that for sinking FC rules.
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Default Re: sinking line leader

Ard makes a sinking leader for his floating line that is so slick I stole the idea from him. He has the plan in the forum here someplace. For the most part however, I use the same leader for floating as I do sinking. I also like Joni's furled Kevlar leaders. If you don't put a floatant or wax it, the thing goes down like a brick. I have some sinking leaders for my spey lines I got from Trevor Morgan that work pretty slick on my floating lines. I made some custom T-17 weights for leaders with looped ends. (The idea I stole from Ard) There's a ton of things you can do. My Canadian fishing buddy likes split shot but they do not work so well on a two hand rod and a long cast. I may have BB'd some windows on the Canadian side of the river with them, but they do OK on a single hand rod.
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Short reply, yes! Longer reply it depends on many things and here's a couple. A sinking leader usually can be shorter and therefore more easily handled. Dry fly mono rules while some say that for sinking FC rules.
+1 to what Chuck said.

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Ard makes a sinking leader for his floating line that is so slick I stole the idea from him. He has the plan in the forum here someplace. For the most part however, I use the same leader for floating as I do sinking. I also like Joni's furled Kevlar leaders. If you don't put a floatant or wax it, the thing goes down like a brick. I
Soooo true! Her Kevlar leaders, for this purpose, are excellent.
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uhh... I've never had a leader not sink when attached to a sinking line, no matter what material it's made from.

... I use straight mono. 2-4 feet unless I want the fly to ride higher than the line in the water column. Only then will I use a longer one.
I remember a picture in one of Lefty's books where he was using leader on a sinking line that couldn't have been more than a foot long, maybe less.
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RT, it's a principle of hydraulics. If the 'anchor' (sink tip/what-ever) has an unweighted fly on the end of the leader, water pressure will try to force it 'up.'

Even with sink tips, I tend to stick to a weighted fly of some sort.
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RT, it's a principle of hydraulics. If the 'anchor' (sink tip/what-ever) has an unweighted fly on the end of the leader, water pressure will try to force it 'up.' Even with sink tips, I tend to stick to a weighted fly of some sort.
I've fished small foam popper-type bugs on a full sinking line. They have kinda a reverse jig action when stripped and will stay up out off the bottom, out of the rocks and weed.
They sink, believe me, and not just on fluoro or kevlar leaders

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In fact this the bug that I'm talkin' about. They're a soft foam molded on a hook and coated with latex. You just add a tail and hackle or sew in some rubber legs.
And like I say, I fish them on a full sink line and with 4-6' of leader


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