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Old 10-25-2012, 04:15 PM
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When a stream or lake has a 'barbless' fly rule, does mashing the barb with a pliers count? I mean, is it legal?

Where do you, if you don't tie your own, get barbless flies?
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As far as I know, mashing the barb flat is barbless.

Can't help with other question (I tie on Daiichi barbless hooks), but Google probably can.
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Mashed is legal, but if they check (and they do) it better be mashed down enough.
If it makes you feel better, you can file the barb down almost as easily
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Default Re: Barbless Flies

Very few commercially produced flies are tied on barbless hooks because the vast majority of hooks are produced with barbs on them. I have fished on waters in four states where the rule was single, barbless, hooks. I fish barbless all the time so it is just second nature to me to flatten the barbs at the vise when I tie the flies. If you don't tie flatten the barb when you purchase them or on the water; you should be good to go.
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I had a warden check once.. he ran his thumb nail across the barb area, if it snagged, you were ticketed.

We have shops that sell barbless...
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Default Re: Barbless Flies

Now that's a good question.
Does barbless require all the hooks (including those in your box) to be barbless or just the one(s) in play?
A good question to ask your State Fish & Game people.
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good question, in tennessee, all flys in your possession most be barbless. dont know about other states.
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Default Re: Barbless Flies

Do you feel that there's an advantage to fishing barbless flies? I don't typically buy barbless hooks when I tie, and often forget to mash them down, but on my local streams it doesn't matter. Is a barbless hook better for the fish? Or does it help in keeping them hooked in anyway (would kind of seem counter-intuitive, but it wouldn't be the first time!)
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good question, in tennessee, all flys in your possession most be barbless. dont know about other states.
Wow!! I don't think that is the case here in CA. Jeez - that seems a little stringent. I will double check anyway.

I filed the barbs off of a bunch of flies once. I found that mashing the barb was quicker/easier. I use my reading glasses to make sure the barb is flattened, especially helpful on smaller flies. You can test the barb on your drying patch or clothing to see how smooth you got it as well.

Here is the definition from chapter #1 of the CA regs.
1.19 Barbless hook A fish hook from which the barb or barbs have been removed completely or bent closed, or which is manufactured without barbs.

The CA regs, where it applies, says,"only barbless hooks may be USED." I have not found anything that bars possession of barbed hooks. I suppose you could wear a gaff as a tie pin if you were so inclined, but I imagine that would invite unwanted attention in the barbless/artificial, 0 bag limit areas.

Personally I think it is strange that a company hasn't started making barbless hooked flies available. I've heard it is not economically feasible. It seems to me whoever figures out a way and steps up could corner the market. I also thought that starting a not for profit barbless fly cooperative/company could be cool. Just a thought - don't look at me for execution!

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Do you feel that there's an advantage to fishing barbless flies? I don't typically buy barbless hooks when I tie, and often forget to mash them down, but on my local streams it doesn't matter. Is a barbless hook better for the fish? Or does it help in keeping them hooked in anyway (would kind of seem counter-intuitive, but it wouldn't be the first time!)

Well, it's a whole lot easier to get a barbless hook out of a fish without damaging the fish.

Also, there are places around me that require barbless hooks, and catch-and-release.

You do lose a few more fish without barbs on the hook, but it's not as bad as it might seem. You just need to keep a tight line.
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