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Old 10-29-2012, 04:17 AM
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Default Anyone Use the Orvis Knot

I always found the clinch knot to be a little cumbersome especially after or around dark. I picked up the Orvis app for iphone. Great app, lots of cool stuff on knots and casting.

They call it the Orvis knot but I am sure it must be under other names as well. If you find you are changing flies frequently and want to try a nice knot, this one is really slick. As with all knots, after a few attempts I found little things to make it easier to tie. Its all I use now.

Its to the top far right of the link I provided.
Its probably old news to the old trouts around here. But there may be some who have never tried it.

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Old 10-29-2012, 06:18 AM
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Default Re: Anyone Use the Orvis Knot

I assume you mean Ovis Knot and not the Orvis Tippet Knot?

Sure, the Orvis knot is a superior strength knot from what I've read and in my experience it's at least stronger than a double surgeon's loop . I found this out when I got hung-up on the bottom the other day.

Everyone has their preferred knots and I'd think most people would tend to stick with ones they landed good fish with on a regular basis....who'd blame them?

I've heard the saying "an average knot tied well beats a great knot tied poorly" and I 100% believe this. I recently went trout fishing with an excellent guide in WV and observed his rigging and knot tying because I'm interested in that kind of thing, and his preferred knots?

blood knot
untucked clinch knot

And you know what? I caught some nice fish that day without problems due to knot failure. Go figure - these two knots are among those targeted for low strength and/or slippage.
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Default Re: Anyone Use the Orvis Knot

My fingers don't work so well and I find almost all knots hard to tie, especially tying the fly to the tippet. I don't know why, but the smaller the line, the harder it is for me. Plus my eyes just ain't the same once I passed the 50-mark.

I found this thing, called the Cinch Tie Knot Tyer, actually ties the clinch knot quickly and remarkably easily. I think you can do the same this with a pair of forceps, too, jsut as easily.

Here is the website: cinch tie knot tyer and there is even a little video on the page where it shows you how to tie the clinch knot on it. Like I said, you can just as easily use forceps for this.

All I know is that this little thing has made my life a lot easier and I am sure it will be more so whenever the weather gets cold and my fingers work even less well than they do normally.


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Default Re: Anyone Use the Orvis Knot

The way the Orvis knot came about is that Orvis held a contest for the strongest new tippet to fly knot. The "Orvis knot" won and they bought the right to name the knot from the fellow that invented it.

I have used it exclusively since it was developed. It is a strong knot and best of all it does NOT waste tippet. I won't use a knot that requires a lot of tippet because a short tippet is less effective.

Some knots like the clinch knot trap the tippet between a wrap of tippet and the hook eye. To work they require the tippet diameter to be much smaller than the hook wire diameter. Otherwise the tag end of the tippet can slip out. If you have ever had a curly cue at the end of your tippet when you lost a fish tied with a clinch, that is a slipped knot.

The Orvis knot won't slip.
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The way the Orvis knot came about is that Orvis held a contest for the strongest new tippet to fly knot. The "Orvis knot" won and they bought the right to name the knot from the fellow that invented it.

I have used it exclusively since it was developed. It is a strong knot and best of all it does NOT waste tippet. I won't use a knot that requires a lot of tippet because a short tippet is less effective.

Some knots like the clinch knot trap the tippet between a wrap of tippet and the hook eye. To work they require the tippet diameter to be much smaller than the hook wire diameter. Otherwise the tag end of the tippet can slip out. If you have ever had a curly cue at the end of your tippet when you lost a fish tied with a clinch, that is a slipped knot.

The Orvis knot won't slip.
Interesting story. I wondered how it got its name. It is a great knot that won't waste tippet. I love the slip part of the knot. Very ingenious.
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Some knots like the clinch knot trap the tippet between a wrap of tippet and the hook eye. To work they require the tippet diameter to be much smaller than the hook wire diameter. Otherwise the tag end of the tippet can slip out. If you have ever had a curly cue at the end of your tippet when you lost a fish tied with a clinch, that is a slipped knot.

The Orvis knot won't slip.
Damned interesting! Looking at a 'just lost fish' yesterday AM and the 'curly cue' was just what I was looking at.
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I always found the clinch knot to be a little cumbersome especially after or around dark. I picked up the Orvis app for iphone. Great app, lots of cool stuff on knots and casting.

They call it the Orvis knot but I am sure it must be under other names as well. If you find you are changing flies frequently and want to try a nice knot, this one is really slick. As with all knots, after a few attempts I found little things to make it easier to tie. Its all I use now.

Its to the top far right of the link I provided.
Its probably old news to the old trouts around here. But there may be some who have never tried it.

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+1 Many knots have been invented,improved upon but the Baker or Orvis knot is my favorite for over twenty years.
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Default Re: Anyone Use the Orvis Knot

i recently learned the davy knot, took some getting used to, but now that i have it, great, esy to tie knot. much easier than a improved clinch knot, at least for me. still learning the douple surgeons knot, anybody got help for that one??
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I did a search for Orvis knot and found the history of the knot here:

"Some years ago, the Orvis Company held a contest in which anglers submitted new line-to-hook knots. A gentleman named Larry Becker won, and the knot he submitted is among the strongest, simplest, and most reliable that a fly fisher can use. The Orvis knot is also very small and light."


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I did a search for Orvis knot and found the history of the knot here:

"Some years ago, the Orvis Company held a contest in which anglers submitted new line-to-hook knots. A gentleman named Larry Becker won, and the knot he submitted is among the strongest, simplest, and most reliable that a fly fisher can use. The Orvis knot is also very small and light."


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Very cool. Thanks for this. I feel I little bad for Larry though not being credited for his invention.
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