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Old 01-23-2013, 07:54 PM
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Since I've started into this adventure of fly tying..I've only used the standard cement. What I'm needing to know,,what cement,,adhesive ?? is it that is very thick,,you can lay a bubble down and it not flow out flat,,,kinda like,,putting a translucent 'hump' on a nymph for example. I've seen the tiers on YouTube use it but I always miss the name of what they are using,,or they don't show it.

What am I looking for by name ?

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Old 01-23-2013, 08:09 PM
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are you talking about something like a "loon uv resin" you pop it on and harden by shining a uv light on it?

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What kind of cement are you using? Head cement should be pretty thin and flow freely. You arent using a contact cement found at a craft or hardware store, are you?
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Take a look at this thread, I think it has your answer:
clear cure vs bug bond vs all the other stuff
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Are you maybe thing of 'Poxy back' flies? In that case it's generally 5 minute epoxy. I use Flex Coat rod building 5 min. epoxy and it does not yellow or get cloudy in water.
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I'm using a fly tying head cement, woodriver.

Thanks for the link to the thread on this , mcnerney. Lot's of options I see...well be exploring things. I'm not sure it's a critical thing,,,but I can see situations were a semi thick epoxy type might be a good thing.

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If you're new to fly tying.. Ditch the head cement.. Krazy Glue is where it's at.. cheaper.. and 100x stonger

As for UV resins.. Don't get drawn in by the flashy $20-40 lights that are "needed" to make the resin set.. you can buy them on the auction site for $4.. the real problem is figuring out which resin you prefer.. a couple years ago there seemed to only be a hand full.. now there's a ton of them on the market
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For my saltwater flies I use 5 minute epoxy and dry them on a turner. For "thread heads" I use nail polish. I use Super Glue over the entire fly on my Chironomids.
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If you're new to fly tying.. Ditch the head cement.. Krazy Glue is where it's at..
I use nail polish, Krazy Glue, hot glue, Goop, epoxy, varnish, fabric paint,..... all kinds of stuff (no head cement though )
They all have their uses. I wouldn't discount one for another.
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I use head cement (actually Sally Hansen's nail polish) or UV acrylics when I need a shiny head on a fly, mainly for streamers. I rarely use head cent to hold my wraps. A 5 turn whip finish is all that I need. I learned that from a commercial tyer who would give a dozen free flies if any of his flies unraveled. A proper whip finish saves a lot of head cementing.

I do use super glue very, very rarely. My belief is that a proper tying technique is faster and as secure as using glues. I think if my flies unraveled, I would try to figure out why and only use glues if there was no other way to solve the unravelling.

Some patterns call for a specific adhesive. I use super glue if the pattern calls for it as in some foam patterns. I use Tear Mender, the latex flexible adhesive called for in Scott Sanchez's Double Bunny pattern. I use 3M 77 spray adhesives to glue foam strips together to form the color pattern I need, as for a Morrish Hopper.

I use UV acrylics in the place of epoxy.
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