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Old 02-10-2013, 08:59 PM
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is there a big difference between the 5:5 and the 6:4 ratios? in the long run which would probably be the best bet?
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is there a big difference between the 5:5 and the 6:4 ratios? in the long run which would probably be the best bet?
I personally wouldn't worry too much about the ratios. In point of fact, they really only tell half the story. They do describe how a rod tends to bend when statically loaded, but they don't necessarily describe how stiff or flexible the overall rod is.

When actually fishing, there are a couple of variables which effect exactly how a rod is going to react, the primary one being the angle at which the rod is being held in relation to the point of force being exerted. I can exert a bend at just about any point on the rod based on the angle at which I'm holding the rod.

Different rods do feel different, but for me the differences are somewhat subtle. What feels slightly better to me, may not to you. It's just the same as with reeled rods, there is no action which automatically feels the best to every angler. I personally think the difference in feel is more subtle between tenkara rods than between reeled rods.

I think that may be because the casting stroke between reeled and non-reeled rods is different. Not black and white different, but different. I can't exactly describe it in words, but with a reeled rod I somewhat feel like I'm throwing the line where I want it to go. With a tenkara rod, it almost feels to me at least, like I'm using the rod to "paint" the line where I want it to be. That's not the best description, but it's the best I can do.

Hope that helps more than it confuses, maybe someone else can do a better job describing it.
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:39 AM
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There is a definite difference in "feel" between rods and furthermore it may limit the line you use:

5:5---soft "smooth" feel, best rod for level lines, hookset slightly more difficult, wider "loops" resulting in softer but less accurate presentation, best dry fly rod.
6:4---slightly snappier cast, considered capable of both level line and tapered furled lines, slightly easier hookset.
7:3---stiffer feeling rod, may require heavier level line or furled line to load properly, smaller "loop" making more precise cast, easier hookset, manages larger fish better, best nymph rod.

It has been my observation that most experienced tenkara anglers end up favoring a slightly softer rod as time goes on. The exception is anglers who favor larger fish, where they go the opposite direction and favor a strictly czech nymphing approach.

To complicate it a little further, the ratio describes the loading of the whole rod. The hollow tips of Shiamno and Diawa rods for instance give the tip less flexibility and more snap. Thus in these high end rods you can get the slow feel while regaining some of the tip snap accuracy. Lastly not all companies assign ratios in recognition of the very subjective nature of this description.

Tenkara is very much about feel and intuition. Why shouldn't your rod choice be the same? I'd end by saying, get a 5:5 or 6:4 rod between 11 and 13 foot and I think you will be absolutely pleased. The differences between rods are minor. The difference in unburdening your fishing is major!

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Thanks guys for the answers. From what I have read and hearing what others have said, it is a matter of individual taste and the waters you fish. From what I can tell by those who are using this style "most" are using a 12' 6:4 rod. Again it comes down the the stream size, fish size and type of flies one uses. What is nice about the Tehkara style, without a reel the price of the rods are not crazy, at least most "good" rods are under $200.00.

That's not a bad deal for guys who are use to spending $400.00 to $800.00 on the rod and another $300.00 to $500.00 for reel, line etc... I guess the simple approach to the whole style is what is very cool.

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