The North American Fly Fishing Forum
Go Back   The North American Fly Fishing Forum > General Fly Fishing Discussion > General Discussion

General Discussion General discussions regarding fly fishing as a whole. Ask questions. Get answers...


Like Tree36Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 02-20-2013, 12:23 PM
tennessee dave's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Eastern Tennessee
Posts: 116
tennessee dave will become famous soon enoughtennessee dave will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Nostalgia of Bamboo Rods

I own and do fish with graphite BUT there is nothing quite like fishing with cane. Fly fishing in and of itself is a rather ethereal experience for me and adding the beauty and feel of a well made bamboo rod just heightens the experience. It's all about the experience. I like all types of whiskies but there is something very special indeed that comes with an old bourbon of many years or that special bottling of a rare single malt that just isn't there with Jack Daniels or Dewar's. As with fishing rods both do the job...you are drinking whiskey. Again it's all about the experience.
sumojo likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 02-20-2013, 04:00 PM
Business Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 409
CutThroat Leaders is a name known to allCutThroat Leaders is a name known to allCutThroat Leaders is a name known to allCutThroat Leaders is a name known to allCutThroat Leaders is a name known to allCutThroat Leaders is a name known to all
Default Re: Nostalgia of Bamboo Rods

I am picking up my first bamboo rod next month. I am buying it off of a rod builder in Oregon who makes only 10-12 rods a year. I will admit that my first time casting it was a real lesson on slowing down. It took a bit of practice on the lawn, but once dialed in, I felt more connected to that rod than I do to rods I have fished for years. I am very much looking forward to landing my first fish on it this season. Hopefully I will have some good pictures of rod and fish as the season progresses.
sumojo likes this.
__________________

Mike
Hand Woven Furled Leaders
Original: http://www.cutthroatleader.com/
New Site: http://www.cutthroatfurledleaders.com/
email. sales@cutthroatleader.com
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 02-20-2013, 04:38 PM
jeepster II's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: southern arizona
Posts: 549
jeepster II is a jewel in the roughjeepster II is a jewel in the roughjeepster II is a jewel in the roughjeepster II is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: Nostalgia of Bamboo Rods

I fish with people who fish bamboo and so I do. I like the slower, calmer, more relaxed rhythm-like fishing that bamboo does for me. It's like I plan my attack and then make gentle worthwhile casts. I have four bamboo fly rods.
sumojo likes this.
__________________
steve
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 02-20-2013, 09:19 PM
matt153265's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 24
matt153265 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Nostalgia of Bamboo Rods

Thanks for the excellent feedback gentlemen!

Yes, Bamboo rods and cool waters!

With crisp morning air.

How challenging is building a custom one? For a novice builder that is…
sumojo likes this.
__________________
"This house is where I take my natural rest, but my home is out there, beyond the back door." ~Albert "Salmo" McClain, 1965
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 02-20-2013, 10:56 PM
williamhj's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Denver CO
Posts: 2,373
williamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Nostalgia of Bamboo Rods

Quote:
Originally Posted by matt153265 View Post
How challenging is building a custom one? For a novice builder that is…
From a blank or from a culm? I've done the former, not the latter and am thinking it is far easier but still has some nice challenges and feels great once done.
sumojo likes this.
__________________
- William Jensen
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 02-21-2013, 12:47 AM
wjc wjc is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: south florida
Posts: 1,370
wjc has a brilliant futurewjc has a brilliant futurewjc has a brilliant futurewjc has a brilliant futurewjc has a brilliant futurewjc has a brilliant futurewjc has a brilliant futurewjc has a brilliant futurewjc has a brilliant futurewjc has a brilliant futurewjc has a brilliant future
Default Re: Nostalgia of Bamboo Rods

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackster
The magic I hear of that bamboo has for many people hasn't touched me yet.
You just haven't touched the right rod yet, Jackster - and it doesn't have to have a big name on the reel seat either - or cost much if you get lucky. If I ever wind up traveling north, I'll bring it with, and you can give it a try - or if you ever get down here.

By far my favorite is a no-name Abercrombie and Fitch 7' 4 wt. I like it better than the Payne, Leonards, Granger and FE Thomas. If you are like most guys used to feather weight graphite, most bamboo rods feel tip heavy when wiggling without a reel or line on them.

This one doesn't - perfect dry fly rod. Fast action and remarkable recovery time. Maybe Bill, as a maker, can tell me why, but I personally think that the damping of bamboo is much faster and more complete than high modulus rods like Sage TCX, TCR's etc. They are way, way easier on the elbow than the above graphite - especially if underlining them, as is my tendency. You don't get that vibration all the way up your arm after the rebound. It's like the difference between running a Jonsereds chain saw as compared to a Homelite.

It takes me no time at all to convert back to bamboo when I haven't cast one in several years - as I recently discovered. But that's all I fished with for a lot of years, and it was like a reawakening when I strung that particular one up a month ago or something. I'd forgotten just how wonderful it is to cast a light bamboo rod and line in a light breeze.

You'd be smitten by this rod Jackster, guaranteed. I wish I knew the name of the maker.
sumojo likes this.
__________________
http://www.miterclamp.com/Images/N_Amer_FF.jpg Cheers, Jim
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 02-21-2013, 09:46 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 462
ditz will become famous soon enoughditz will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Nostalgia of Bamboo Rods

I would like to spend a few hours with a light line boo. I have never been willing to spend the money that a good boo goes for. I was just in a fly shop a couple of days ago and I picked up a sweet looking boo. I quickly and carefully put it back into the rod rack. $1995......I doubt that my truck is worth that. That, my friend, is not a working man's tool.
Rip Tide and sumojo like this.
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 02-21-2013, 10:21 AM
williamhj's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Denver CO
Posts: 2,373
williamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond reputewilliamhj has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Nostalgia of Bamboo Rods

Quote:
Originally Posted by ditz View Post
That, my friend, is not a working man's tool.
It depends on the working man's priorities and other commitments. Not many could do it on an impulse purchase but saving up for some years, it can be doable for many. Personally, a $2000 rod isn't something I plan on purchasing whether or not I can afford it, as I have many other things I'd rather put that money towards. In fact, if I was going to spend that cash I'd take Oyster's rod building class for a week. However, you don't have to spend that for bamboo.

I finished 2 from imported blanks, the second with nice ferrules and agate guide from Golden Witch and snakes from Snake Brand Guides and all told probably came in under $400 for all my materials. Love fishing them both. I know there is a builder in the US that would sell you a blank ferruled for less than $300, if you only want 1 tip and unferruled then less than $200. Even giving yourself $300 to spend on components (nice rod!) you're coming in below $500 or $600. His rods start below $700 completed.

I think there is also a used market out there, though you'd want to research the rods to know what you're getting.
sumojo likes this.
__________________
- William Jensen
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 02-21-2013, 10:39 AM
wt bash's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Akron Ohio (don't let that fool you)
Posts: 1,988
wt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant future
Default Re: Nostalgia of Bamboo Rods

WJC, its cane's inherent mass. It creates and absorbs energy better than graphite as there is more material there. Imagine an empty paper towel roll as a graphite rod, drop it on the floor it bounces, shakes, rattles, and rolls a bit and all that, now take a full roll of paper towel (cane fly rod) and do the same. Plop, it hits its done. Casting cane rods is like slow dancing with a lady, if you dance well, it pushes all the right buttons and she rewards you with a sweet good night kiss!

Ditz don't go through a shop to get a cane rod go to the maker. Fly shops will throw a large mark up on there cause its probably in the shop on consignment. They gotta make theirs as much as the maker. Go for a single tip rod to keep the cost down. The reason for the high price tags is the work involved. Not to say that rolling a graphite or glass blank isn't work but I don't think it compares to what is done during the process of making split cane rods. Makers put their heart and soul into it, it might sound corny but you have to if its something you want to keep doing. There is countless time spent selecting the proper culm, splitting, staggering, roughing, heat treating, and planning. Measurements are taken constantly, fingers get sliced open by sharper than razor strips, hours spent waiting on varnish to dry. Then finally the maker gets to dress her up. When you spend that amount of time and put all that effort into it, it feels criminal to let one go at a bargain bin price. Its hard enough to let one go as it is! Plus that rod, if fished and properly taken care of will be around for a long long time and could end up heirloom material.

Matt its pretty challenging. In truth though if its something you're really into the work itself is no biggie but the cost and sourcing of tools is a major hurdle. Forms can go as much as 1200 block planes and Hock blades add up, bevelers are exspensive if you decide to use one, heat treating ovens add up, a proper binder can set you back a good amount too. Not to leave out the cost of reel seats guides, silks and finish. Its a hell of an investment up front, with not a whole lot of return, the profit lies in knowing you created something from scratch that with hope someone will enjoy the experience as much as you have.
Hardyreels and sumojo like this.
__________________
Oh I live to be the ruler of life not a slave
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2013, 09:20 PM
matt153265's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 24
matt153265 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Nostalgia of Bamboo Rods

Just curious…

What is the length of the #3 flea?

Also, are you happy with that or would you now choose a different length in a #3 or #4?
sumojo likes this.
__________________
"This house is where I take my natural rest, but my home is out there, beyond the back door." ~Albert "Salmo" McClain, 1965
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Vintage split bamboo fly rods / big lot of project rods for parts restoration Ebay USA Vintage fly rods 0 10-28-2012 08:20 PM
vintage japanese bamboo surf rods fly rods Ebay USA Vintage fly rods 0 08-16-2012 02:10 PM
Bamboo fly rods / vintage fly rod / two rods / edwards bristol signed Ebay USA Vintage fly rods 0 05-23-2012 10:20 PM
HANDCRAFTING BAMBOO FLY RODS-Wayne Cattanach-Fly Fishing-Bamboo Fly Rods Book Ebay USA Fishing Books for sale 0 04-29-2012 10:40 PM
VINTAGE BAMBOO FLY RODS & CASTING ROD LOT(Lot includes 3 rods) as parts/restore Ebay USA Vintage fly rods 0 11-29-2011 09:20 PM













All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
2005-2014 The North American Fly Fishing Forum. All rights reserved.