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Old 03-03-2013, 09:54 PM
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Default Loop to Loop (Fly Line to Leader)

I am new to the fly fishing sport. I have a 5wt and a 3wt. I put Rio Mainstream on them both (WF5F and DT3F) and neither of them had a loop at the end of the fly line. I was told that's the easiest way to change and connect leaders so the guys at my local fly shop whipped a loop on the end of my fly line for me. If the fly line didn't have a loop it sounded like this was my only option unless I had some tools (which I don't). I'm curious as to what the appropriate length of the added mono loop should be. They nail knotted on some amnesia line and then ended it with a perfection loop. One of those is 2-3" and the other one is closer to 10-12". The longer one doesn't seem to cast well on my 3wt, so what are your preferences??
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:09 PM
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Just nail knot the leader directly to the fly line and cut both tails very short and at a tapered angle. It's much more streamlined and allows the junction to pass through the guides smoothly. I don't like loop-to-loop connections and have never lost a fish (or an underwater log for that matter) to a nail knot.
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:24 PM
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Here's some videos to help.


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I have always used braided loop connectors. They transfer power to the leader more smoothly than a whipped mono loop, I think. I have only had a problem one time (in 20+ years of fishing), when the braided loop slipped right off the end of my flyline while I was playing a fish. After that I have made sure to attach them not only with the little plastic sleeve they come supplied with, but also with Pliobond or another flexible adhesive.
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Default Re: Loop to Loop (Fly Line to Leader)

I do about 3-4" of mono with a nail not and perfection loop like you mentioned one of your setups has.
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I like the braided loop connectors. Work good. I did have a couple come off grass casting because they don't do good being pulled backwards through grass, but I have never had one come off fighting a fish or casting. I did a mono knot around the end of the one I grass cast now so problem solved.
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I have 7 setups & some have nail knots & some have braided loops. Not sure which 1 I prefer?
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Here's some videos to help.Hope this helps!
I watched both of these videos actually and I really like the look of how they come out, but I don't have a bobbin or any other common fly tying materials/tools.

I will have to try nail knotting the leader directly to my fly line as well as give the braided loops a try and see which of them I prefer. Thanks for the tips guys.
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Default Re: Loop to Loop (Fly Line to Leader)

At my age I am all thumbs so I prefer to use the RIO Gold or RIO Grand trout lines. I like the loop to loop connection at both ends and especially at the leader connection. It is alot easier IMHO to change leaders on the water than fooling with knots. Just works for me. I checked the RIO site out and see one reason for using the "Mainstream" line... price. I have used the braided system and like that as well a long as you put a drop of glue on the braid.

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My preference is for loop to loop. So much easier to change leaders, especially during a fishing session
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