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Old 03-08-2013, 08:07 PM
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Default How can I get a job in this industry?

Well first off I'm 19 and just starting out my " real world life " I'm going to school to become a diesel mechanic but know I don't want to do it long term and I know I want to be in the out door side of things. I was just wondering for those of you who are guides or own fly fishing stores or who work in the outdoor/fishing world how did you do it! I'm basically just wanting to know what the best way to start moving in the right direction to some day get a dream job. I can pretty much sacrifice moving to anywhere as I'm not tied down where I currently live. Dose anyone have any tips at all? Thanks!
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:21 PM
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19, How about getting a degree in Wildlife/Forestry?
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:36 PM
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I never worked as a guide, but I worked in the fly fishing industry for six years.

There are two types of guides. One is an independent operator. The other works for a licensed outfitter. The independent operator has a business license, insurance bond, and guiding license. He is responsible for all of his overhead. The employee type is hired by a licensed outfitter. The outfitter takes care of the business overhead. In some states, the employee type guide will have to obtain a special guiding license to work for outfitters.

The shop that I worked at was not an outfitter. It contracted licensed guides.

One thing that I learned from the independent guides is that they have to know how to run their own businesses. You don't necessarily need a degree, but a few basic business classes under your belt will help. I have seen a few guides fail because of poor basic business practices like record keeping.

There are guide schools available. I have had mixed reviews on them.

Here's a reality check. Don't plan on getting rich in the industry. Guiding is more of a labor of love. Most successful guides who I know work part time in the industry and have full time paying jobs.

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I don't know a lot of guides, but two of the most successful I know are women. One has a Master's of Fine Arts from Yale, the other has degrees from the school of hard knocks. Both have one thing in common: dedication to the job at hand. They appear to make a living wage, and have delightful attitudes towards life and their jobs. If you have some of those expectations and attitudes, I hope you'll find a place.
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:58 PM
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Default How can I get a job in this industry?

Thanks guys I don't want to be a guide right off because of my lack of experience but I just want a job that can maybe lead me toward being a guide one day. I just want to be able to teach others about fly fishing or just be in the out door field. I've always had an extreme passion for outdoors and fishing and if I could make a living then I would love to. I don't plan on getting rich or making tons of money. I can do that being a diesel mechanic. But I would be happier if I made enough to get by and enjoy what I do everyday of my life.
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Find and fall in love with a specific river, get to know the folks in the local shops and eventually become a "Shop Rat" for a couple years while you expand your knowledge of the river....if it's meant to be you'll get your chance.

As Mosca mentioned, don't plan on getting rich by Guiding. It may be very beneficial to learn all you can about diesel mechanics and fall back on that during the off season.

Recently I was with a group of Guides and a couple of accomplished fellas in our sport, the subject came up(as it always does) "How do I get my name out there and make a living at this"? One of the well known fellas told the person that asked the question; Guiding alone is a very rough road anymore because everyone wants to be a Guide, according to his explanation you need something that sets you apart from everyone else, whether that be a book, photography, artwork, a new type of fly, designing fly rods, making fly reels, etc, etc. The point he was trying to make was that now days you gotta think outside the box to get your name out there.

Find your own niche and good luck.
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Old 03-08-2013, 10:23 PM
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What part of the industry do you want to break into? Do you want to be a guide? Or a sales rep for a big company like Sage or Simms? How about the conservation side and becoming a Fisheries Biologist or a Game Warden? Lots of options with lots of different routes...

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Old 03-08-2013, 10:27 PM
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Default How can I get a job in this industry?

Trout champ really all options sound appealing to me even a sales rep! But game warden is kind of out of the question for a few things I don't wanna mention lol..but really just want to be in the industry some how. I want to be around what I love to do and make a living doing it.
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All I can say is be careful when trying to mix work and pleasure. Some can do it and live awesome lives but it its tough. Everything in life has to be balanced too much of one can taint the other. Know your personal limits and always have a solid plan B.
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After years of working PT in shops and guiding i fianally opened my own small shop since retiring. It's tough. I used to fish 7 days a week now I am lucky if i can get out 1 day a week, between shop and house. lots of work if it isn't selling its paper work. And I only specialize in hard to get things. And forget guiding to many out there now. get in the fisheries or forestry at least there is a future there.
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