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nick k 03-12-2013 11:48 AM

So I'm thinking ultralight, but where to start?
 
Been giving some thought into going ultralight. Plenty of bigger bream around me and lots of small bass. I imaging catching these on an ultralight rod would be a blast. But I have some questions:

1. What weight do you think is appropriate? 1, 2, 3? Not sure how light these ultralight rods really are.
2. Whats are some good ultralight rod models below $400.
3. What types of line would be good for this?
4. What is some other gear that may be good for someone starting the ultralight hunt?
5. Anything you can tell me to fuel this fire?

Thanks in advance for the help and advice.

plecain 03-12-2013 11:58 AM

Re: So I'm thinking ultralight, but where to start?
 
The ultralight I use the most is a St Croix Imperial 6' 2 wt (marked).

I and some other testers have measured the ERN of this rod. It's around a 1.2 wt.

Because this is really closer to a 1 wt, WF2F line is slightly over-lining it, but works fine.

Amazon has it for $170.


I use this reel:

http://www.basspro.com/White-River-F...1112290501111/

nick k 03-12-2013 12:44 PM

Re: So I'm thinking ultralight, but where to start?
 
Plecain: Thanks for the rod suggestion. I have a few older Orvis Rocky Mountain cassette reels that I believe should work well enough for whatever rod I get. Could be wrong though.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Orvis-Rocky-Mountain-7-8-/00/s/MTAyNFgxMzY1/z/c~sAAMXQDXRRG3-n/$%28KGrHqF,!g0FELUl62hGBRG3-m7Qrg~~60_35.JPG

Here's a picture of the reel, not mine specifically.

plecain 03-12-2013 12:49 PM

Re: So I'm thinking ultralight, but where to start?
 
Can't imagine those reels won't work.

The rod, measured by me, weighs only 1.8 Oz.

ditz 03-12-2013 12:56 PM

Re: So I'm thinking ultralight, but where to start?
 
I mostly fish a 2wt TFO Signature 6' rod. 3wt DT floating line.....I did not like the 2wt wf floating. I fish small creeks for warmwater and it is perfect. I have caught smb up to 3# on it but they are rare in these streams. These streams have a heavy tree canopy and The 6' works great. I tried a 8.5' but all I could catch was trees. Very frustrating and a roll cast was the only way I could use it at all. As far as I am concerned the matters little as long as it is not way too heavy. I have never gotten into the drag on any fish and I use a 6# tippet always. I cast flies up to at least #6 with beadchain eyes and unweighted streamer even bigger. I mostly fish 12 to 8 flies like poppers and floating spiders and a #10 blind squirrel and some soft hackles. They will have to pry my 2wt from my cold dead hand. hehehe:frogdance

An additional thought....I would like to try a 0wt but every one I have seen was $$$$. Lines are rare too though a 1wt might work well on some of them.

nick k 03-12-2013 01:21 PM

Re: So I'm thinking ultralight, but where to start?
 
So how light is too light exactly. Is a 1wt too low for bluegill? I know there are even 0wts. Trying to get a sense of what these rods are for, and what will happen if I happen to hook a 4lb bass on one. Don't want it snapping.

plecain 03-12-2013 01:42 PM

Re: So I'm thinking ultralight, but where to start?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nick k (Post 535967)
So how light is too light exactly. Is a 1wt too low for bluegill? I know there are even 0wts. Trying to get a sense of what these rods are for, and what will happen if I happen to hook a 4lb bass on one. Don't want it snapping.

I use it mainly in small streams.

However, last summer, I started fishing in a small stream for small native brookies. When the small stream emptied into a river, I kept using it. The first fish I caught in the river was 1 1/2 Lb. brown trout. It put a good bend in the rod, but that's all. I kept on using the rod all day. I probably caught 15-20 trout between 9 and 14 inches.

I'd say bluegills would be fine with this rod.

Sage makes 000, 00, and 0 wt rods (the TXL and TXL-F). Rio makes the lines for those rods. I haven't used anything smaller than the Imperial.

45fisher 03-12-2013 01:55 PM

Re: So I'm thinking ultralight, but where to start?
 
Nick K,

Build it yourself or buy it.
You won't go wrong with a St. Croix.

I just built a 6'0" 2wt on their SCIV/SCII blank. If I wasn't getting paid to biuild it I would have kept it. A very fast action rod for it's wt.


Larry

nick k 03-12-2013 02:05 PM

Re: So I'm thinking ultralight, but where to start?
 
I would build if I had the tools to do it (or the confidence in knowing that I wouldn't butcher the job and waste my money).

plecain 03-12-2013 02:14 PM

Re: So I'm thinking ultralight, but where to start?
 
I forgot to mention one thing I like about the St. Croix rods.
They'll sell you a spare tip section for $30 delivered. For a 2 piece rod, that's half the rod.
They have them in stock for just about any reasonably recent rod.

And finally, Orvis has a line sale going on, including the 1 and 2 wt lines:

http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=94GK


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