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Old 11-20-2013, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: "Fly fishing" split shot really sucks

I don't even use split shot, gave up on that stuff many, many years ago. Prefer to incorporate weight into my flies, and like the tungsten beads & cones if I need to get them down really quick. Otherwise, I'll use a fast sinking line.

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Default Re: "Fly fishing" split shot really sucks

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I don't even use split shot, gave up on that stuff many, many years ago. Prefer to incorporate weight into my flies, and like the tungsten beads & cones if I need to get them down really quick. Otherwise, I'll use a fast sinking line.

Hey, Turbineblade, I have a mold for 20 oz bank sinkers if you need something heavier! I'm sure I could fix you up with a few!
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Default Re: "Fly fishing" split shot really sucks

I'd rather use split shot than weight the flies themselves, because I think an unweighted fly drifting along is more natural. The real bugs aren't made out of lead. I want my nymphs to be drifting with the vagaries of the current, just above the bottom at least part of the time instead of dragging along the bottom.

In the water I normally like to nymph on rivers like the Yellowstone, two BB split shot is about right for weighting the nymph rig for me. I occasionally add another one in really fast water dropping suddenly off into deeper current.
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Default Re: "Fly fishing" split shot really sucks

In these Colorado stereams, a#4 or #6 or two gets the job done fine. Any more and you're hanging up (and losing your fly) on the bottom. I like my nymphs to bounce along the rocks. Seems to work OK.

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Old 11-20-2013, 10:04 PM
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Default Re: "Fly fishing" split shot really sucks

It's a situational thing. I started out using gremlins all the time while nymphing with a foam float. Experience through out the past couple of years, research and some kind fellow one day showing me the ropes, i learned you have to fish the conditions thrown at you.

Gr8 lake steelhead, I use the gremlins. During high water conditions I'm using sinking polyleaders, and bead heads with extra lead weighted flies.

You fishing big water, you better use weight to get it down. Wacky taffy tungsten putty wont cut it. You'll be broke after the first hours worth of snags.

You fish spring runoff, you better have weight on there. You wanna spend a mint in English shot,have at it. Gremlins are cheap and you can take on/off.

You fish summer low flows or frog water, you better go wacky taffy tung weight the size of a bugger or smaller.

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Old 11-20-2013, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: "Fly fishing" split shot really sucks

I still use the removable Gremlins. Love them. And they make them in non lead now also.
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Default Re: "Fly fishing" split shot really sucks

I fish both weighed and unweighed nymphs. I usually use split shot, but vary the size for conditions. I can get the flies down with the shot sold in fly shops, but I have getting it to stay on the leader. That's my problem with it. Now, I betcha water gremlin probably stays on the line better, too.
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Default Re: "Fly fishing" split shot really sucks

I use a heavily weighted lead-body scud as a split-shot and tie the fly I want to fish as a dropper off the back. Sometimes I catch 'em on the scud.

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