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Old 03-02-2014, 02:47 AM
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Default Re: Will textured fly line hurt your guides?

I use a couple SA Textured lines, Trout Stalker in particular. Not near as aggressive texture.
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Old 03-02-2014, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: Will textured fly line hurt your guides?

I have heard several situations now where Sharkskin has caused wear on guides, but no confirmation that the newer less aggressive textured lines have yet. If somebody has had their guides worn from Orvis, SA or any other textured line I would like to hear it. I know I would not want to have my rod re wrapped every couple years. I would just find a new line. I have been fly fishing for 20 years and have never had any guides wear out. Of course I have bought at least 20 rods in those 20 years.
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Default Re: Will textured fly line hurt your guides?

I believe it's the dirt that in beds itself in the line. The same happens when you use a fiberglass or aluminum cleaning rod on a precision shooting rifle or handgun. It's hard to get the dirt off of those two products and over time, it mars the inside of the barrel. Stainless rods clean off and don't carry the grime if you clean them.
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Default Re: Will textured fly line hurt your guides?

What is the hardest material currently available that is used to make guides?
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Cool Re: Will textured fly line hurt your guides?

As for the toughest guides, probably titanium. As to textured lines like sharkskin, it's one more gimmick to drive sales. Lines today are very complex, but the high end lines all do a pretty good job. The combination of core materials, taper, coatings is dizzying. The trick, likes rods, they all cast a little diferently for each one of us except for the most talented casters. Find a line that casts consistently for you, feels good, turns over well for your rod, generates sufficient speed, and enjoy yourself. There is reason softer rods, and beautiful loops are making a comeback...it's putting the word relaxing back into our vocabulary. Save the guides, the metal ones. Slow down it's not a race.
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That's some pretty awful wear on your guides! I would think if you put a standard PVC coated line on that rod and fished it for a couple weeks, it would destroy the line. I would be contacting the fly line manufacturer with those pictures and see if there's any recourse. A line should not destroy a rod!
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Default Re: Will textured fly line hurt your guides?

It also depends on the quality of the metal used in the guides. The Fuji's are some of the best guides you can put on a rod. They are hard and the line wont wear on them.

There's a stretch of water here my buddy and I we fish, that the water has a huge amount of silt floating about in it. Its coats line and the longer you spend fishing in the water, the louder and louder your casts get. We have to clean the lines after each trip and you wouldn't believe how much nonsense comes off them. The first rod he built he needed to replace the guides on it since the silt from the water running across wore about half way thru them within months.

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Default Re: Will textured fly line hurt your guides?

I can show pictures of the guides on my rods. From the cheap W.W. Griggs, to the Greys. Been using SS on these rods for well over three years. Some cases, every day for weeks. I got cuts in my fingers using it 7 hours a day for seven days in a row. But I also got cuts from WET sinking line...WET LINE can do this.
They show no grooves, not cuts, no loss of chrome or coating. Been using SS for over 5 years now, you all know that. Guides are fine.
Your experience may differ. But I do fish a lot and use SS a lot.
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Default Re: Will textured fly line hurt your guides?

As mentioned before, older bamboo rod, older reels, will show bad guide wear because of silk lines.
What was the old rod guides made from. Every time I've seen wear and grooves
on guides, they have been cheap guides. Hardened chrome guides were hardened for a reason. And not all guides are created equal.
Everyone seems to think with the name Sharkskin, it's like a 90' long bandsaw.
What is the reason for the extra distance when throwing a Sharkskin line?
Because unlike a regular line, the complete line is not touching the guides.
I'm going to be in the camp of dirty lines and my camp of cheap guides.
I've yet to see pvc wear out hardened chrome guides.
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Old 03-02-2014, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: Will textured fly line hurt your guides?

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Itchmesir,

Over what time frame of using the Sharkskin do think that happened. Months or years. I'm also curious to hear Joni chime in. I've heard her swear by the Sharkskin and I know she fishes a lot. Also, I'm curious if the textured is any better than the Sharkskin. I know SA makes the Orvis textured for them. It looks like SA is doing away with Sharkskin. I wonder if this is why?
Is SA doing away with Sharkskin? Still going strong on their web site.
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I bought a used reel from a guy here on the forum, and it has wear like that, grooved right into the aluminum of the frame. I had wondered how that might have happened. Could be dirty or textured line......???
My guess on this reel would be backing. Gel Spun will cut metal.
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