04-15-2014, 12:28 PM
Re: ZG Helios 5 weight
Have never owned a ZG Helios, but I do own Orvis rods, and have tried Orvis lines. Unfortunately, your description leaves lttle to go on.
What I can tell you is this....Orvis has made a couple bad rods that no matter what you put on them cannot cast anything (My 8wt. HLS Silver Label 908 "Power House Special" a good example of that), yet those rods are few and far between so I'd not suspect that unless you have found such reviews elsewhere (and my search for it yielded nothing but positive reviews).
Secondly, I have always found Orvis lines to "feel light" as you say. What I assume you mean by that is that you don't feel the rod load, and on my HLS BigHorn Special 5wt. which I dearly love, I get the same feeling when using Orvis line....BUT....that doesn't mean it casts badly with it. Just simply that it is a disturbing enough difference that it can be very disconcerting.
So, my advice would be to "go cheap".....Get yourself a Cortland 333 WF5 line and give that a try. If it fixes the problem then know this. It is you not the rod. IOW, "to me" the cheap cortland line has a "heavy feel" to it one that cues you into what is happening through feel.....Just like me and my Orvis line however, what that really translates to is "I'm" not sensing the line enough.
I think I understand what you're saying about "feels too light". Whether it is the poorer performance, sloppier loops or whatever that the Cortland 333 makes, it does translate into feeling heavier, yet that usually just means we need to train ourselves better. My casting with a 333 means lots of double hauls (which I actually like doing) so it is my style that is lacking that makes the 333 feel better......That said with my HLS BHS 5wt. I'll routinely cast a Cortland 333 WF7 15' sinking tip with it and boom the line out there with ease proving that point even further.....I just need to teach myself how to feel the lighter "feeling" lines and start casting the rod like it is meant to be.
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