Ok so I went out for the first time this weekend. . . Rainny, cold, snaged 4 trees lost the same amout of and flies, broke 2 leaders, my first step in the watter realized brand new neo waiters had a leak. . . .AND I LOVED EVERY SECOND OF IT!
So, I pull up to the parking lot and a fellow angler was getting out of his car rigging up his flyrod. I introduced myself. He was a super nice guy that showed me the ropes on fishing around here (here being southwest Michigan). He was rigged up for "Chuck and Duck" fishing with a swivel tied at the end of a leader with small bit of line T-ed off the main leader where he hung 2-3 large split shot. The leader was connected to a swivel connected to a tippet with 2 flys attached (one tied with tippet to the hook of the other) both were yarn/ egg patterns. Since we were in tight quarters with thick trees he used a kinda roll cast to send the rig up stream and then the fast watter carried it down while the weight bounced off the gravel.
Question 1: When trying to get egg patters down to the bottom of a fast flowing river/ creek for steelhead, do you guys think it is better to fish with weights like this (chuck and duck) or better to use a sinking line or sink tip line to get the egg patterns down to the bottom allowing for a more traditional cast (in tight quarters roll cast, tower etc)? I tried putting the heavy split shot on and doing the chuck and duck, it was neat to feel the shot bounce off the bottom but it was tough to cast traditionally.
Question 2: how much weight can you add to a fly line before you are no longer casting the line but shooting the weight almost like spin casting?.
My rig 7wt 10ft
Line 7wt
Thanks again for the discussion you guys are a huge help with great opinions!
So, I pull up to the parking lot and a fellow angler was getting out of his car rigging up his flyrod. I introduced myself. He was a super nice guy that showed me the ropes on fishing around here (here being southwest Michigan). He was rigged up for "Chuck and Duck" fishing with a swivel tied at the end of a leader with small bit of line T-ed off the main leader where he hung 2-3 large split shot. The leader was connected to a swivel connected to a tippet with 2 flys attached (one tied with tippet to the hook of the other) both were yarn/ egg patterns. Since we were in tight quarters with thick trees he used a kinda roll cast to send the rig up stream and then the fast watter carried it down while the weight bounced off the gravel.
Question 1: When trying to get egg patters down to the bottom of a fast flowing river/ creek for steelhead, do you guys think it is better to fish with weights like this (chuck and duck) or better to use a sinking line or sink tip line to get the egg patterns down to the bottom allowing for a more traditional cast (in tight quarters roll cast, tower etc)? I tried putting the heavy split shot on and doing the chuck and duck, it was neat to feel the shot bounce off the bottom but it was tough to cast traditionally.
Question 2: how much weight can you add to a fly line before you are no longer casting the line but shooting the weight almost like spin casting?.
My rig 7wt 10ft
Line 7wt
Thanks again for the discussion you guys are a huge help with great opinions!