The North American Fly Fishing Forum


Go Back   The North American Fly Fishing Forum > General Fly Fishing Discussion > General Discussion

General Discussion General discussions regarding fly fishing as a whole. Ask questions. Get answers...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 04-22-2008, 08:08 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 31
RobDutk is on a distinguished road
Default Do you fish with 2 flys? Why not 3 or 4?

Hey guys,

So I have been trying to figure out how I want to fish around here (here being north west IN south west MI,) for rainbows/ steelies. The last two weekends I went out I tried the chuck and duck since that seems like what everyone does.

It is fun enough but not really what I would call fly fishing (not a lot of technique) . HuronDan suggested indicator fishing for Steelies and I look forward to getting out next weekend to try that.

I noticed the guys around here that were chuck and duck casting were using 2 flies. one tied to another by about 10" or so of what I assume is flouro. it was also recommended to do a similar type set up for indicator fishing.

So the question is why? I only assume it is to increase your chances of a strike on one or the other fies, if that is the case why not 3 or 4 or 5 flies? Is it just blasphemy or would it just be too long of a leader/ tippet?

Thanks again for the feed back you old pros, I hope that someday I can actually add to the conversation instead of always initiating.

Rob
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 04-22-2008, 08:21 PM
tightlines57's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 131
tightlines57 will become famous soon enoughtightlines57 will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Do you fish with 2 flys? Why not 3 or 4?

Check the local regs. In many areas it is illegal to fish with more than 2 flies.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 04-22-2008, 08:28 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 31
RobDutk is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Do you fish with 2 flys? Why not 3 or 4?

Ok so I just read the "New member, general perplexions" thread and that shed a little light on it. so the lead fly is the "attactor" fly and the trailing fly is the one that you are betting on the fish striking?

So that would suggest that the front would be say a bright colored egg pattern when fishing for salmon/ rainbows and the trailier would be nymph/ fly pattern?
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 04-22-2008, 08:36 PM
Fly2Fish's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Missouri City (near Houston), Texas
Posts: 1,254
Fly2Fish is a splendid one to beholdFly2Fish is a splendid one to beholdFly2Fish is a splendid one to beholdFly2Fish is a splendid one to beholdFly2Fish is a splendid one to beholdFly2Fish is a splendid one to beholdFly2Fish is a splendid one to beholdFly2Fish is a splendid one to behold
Default Re: Do you fish with 2 flys? Why not 3 or 4?

That's it exactly.
__________________
On the whole, I'd rather be in Wyoming . . .
Fly2:
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 04-22-2008, 08:39 PM
dshort's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: The Old Dominion
Posts: 252
dshort has a spectacular aura aboutdshort has a spectacular aura aboutdshort has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: Do you fish with 2 flys? Why not 3 or 4?

I like fishing 2 flies during a hatch that represent 2 different stages of the same insect. For example, a sulphur emerger trailed behind a sulphur dun. Personally, I find more than 2 more trouble than it's worth. 2 flies is about all I can handle with my mediocre casting skills before I start making a mess out of things and getting everything all tangled up. Nothing more frustrating than standing in the middle of a bunch of rising fish trying to untangle your leader every 5 minutes.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 04-22-2008, 08:47 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 31
RobDutk is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Do you fish with 2 flys? Why not 3 or 4?

Good point,

Given my newbitude . . . I prob would have my hands full with 2 flies.

Thanks,
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 04-22-2008, 10:11 PM
BigCliff's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: South Texas
Posts: 4,313
BigCliff has a brilliant futureBigCliff has a brilliant futureBigCliff has a brilliant futureBigCliff has a brilliant futureBigCliff has a brilliant futureBigCliff has a brilliant futureBigCliff has a brilliant futureBigCliff has a brilliant futureBigCliff has a brilliant futureBigCliff has a brilliant futureBigCliff has a brilliant future
Default Re: Do you fish with 2 flys? Why not 3 or 4?

Quote:
Originally Posted by dshort View Post
I like fishing 2 flies during a hatch that represent 2 different stages of the same insect. For example, a sulphur emerger trailed behind a sulphur dun. Personally, I find more than 2 more trouble than it's worth. 2 flies is about all I can handle with my mediocre casting skills before I start making a mess out of things and getting everything all tangled up. Nothing more frustrating than standing in the middle of a bunch of rising fish trying to untangle your leader every 5 minutes.
I basically agree. I will generally put my flies more like 12"-18" apart so they're fishing different depths.

The best advice I can give is to make sure the dropper fly (closer to the fly line) is unweighted. Otherwise you get the dreaded "tetherball effect" where the dropper has a tendency to wrap around the leader.
__________________
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1276302_n.jpg

I'd rather hunt fish than bait deer any day.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 04-23-2008, 01:00 AM
MrEsox's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: ND
Posts: 320
MrEsox is a jewel in the roughMrEsox is a jewel in the roughMrEsox is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: Do you fish with 2 flys? Why not 3 or 4?

Back when I was in Colorado a few people that I talked with about how they fly fish, suggest that at sometimes of the year, as in the spring, if you put the right fly up top you can use it as a strike indicator or even a bobber. Point shows that as the one fly floats the other can be tied just low enough that it can skim the bottom and be used much easier in something like a heavier spring current. It looks probable to me. I'd not try multiple flys just for the reason of a mess. Hook a fish on the front and end up with the second hooking some place else on teh fish or so tangled up that you have to stop to retie. Largly fly placement and fly types make a world of differance.
__________________
<*))))>< Fish with teeth ... If I ty it a fish will hit it
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 04-23-2008, 01:39 AM
GeorgeMcFly's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,368
GeorgeMcFly is a splendid one to beholdGeorgeMcFly is a splendid one to beholdGeorgeMcFly is a splendid one to beholdGeorgeMcFly is a splendid one to beholdGeorgeMcFly is a splendid one to beholdGeorgeMcFly is a splendid one to beholdGeorgeMcFly is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via AIM to GeorgeMcFly Send a message via Yahoo to GeorgeMcFly
Default Re: Do you fish with 2 flys? Why not 3 or 4?

I am reluctant to try 2 at once .I tied 2 on and not even casting I had the worst rats nest somehow???? see others do it no problem. maybe it just happened for me at that exact moment. now i don't try it cause had to tie up a whole new leader on the river
__________________
"Hey, you.Get your damn hands off my herl !!!!"

owner of the GL Fishing Forum.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 04-23-2008, 05:45 AM
shorthaul's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Lorain, Ohio
Posts: 262
shorthaul will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Do you fish with 2 flys? Why not 3 or 4?

In my state i think you are allowed 3 hooks on a line---the 2 fly setup is sometimes used by guides to get thier clients "hooked up"----the fish goes after the attractor fly and intercepts the leader---the client tries to set the hook and misses the hookup on the attractor fly and the point fly follows and hooks the fish on the outside of the mouth.

steelheaders use the same technique and dredge the bottom and get the leader in the fishs mouth and hook up fish when they are on the gravel

I tried 3 flies once---that was enough
__________________
"something is happening here but i dont know what it is"---dylan
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Promises to Wife. JBinUTAH Fly Fishing Humor 11 09-19-2012 01:33 PM
Your best tip for saltwater fly fishing BigCliff Saltwater Fly Fishing 30 01-18-2011 01:27 AM
Troutbum's fishing site!! troutbum The Lodge Den 0 05-18-2006 10:35 AM
Welcome, lvs2fsh! Fish Bones Member Introductions 0 05-16-2005 06:27 PM
Which rod? WDRookie Fly Rods 11 02-25-2005 09:44 PM













All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
2005-2014 The North American Fly Fishing Forum. All rights reserved.