Does anyone know of a decent glass 4 wt. rod in the $200 neighborhood? Best i can find is the scott glass rod, but its a good bit more expensive. I would go vintage, but i would prefer a rod with a decent waranty. A slow graphite rod would work as well i suppose. Anyone know of anything slower than a Sage Launch?
I should note...this rod is not for me. Its for a friend of mine. Hes newer to the sport, so i let him cast my launch and my legend ultra. Seems the slower the action the more he liked the rod. I figured, we could test drive him on some glass and see what he thinks. It will be used for trout, smaller bass, and pan fish.
Not sure about $200, but Hardy sells glass rods from $325 to $425.
Lamiglas stopped selling fiberglass fly rods over the past couple of years. You might be able to find one somewhere. If I recall correctly the prices were reasonable.
Another option is to consider a slow graphite rod. If you have an authorized Redington dealer, have him try the 8'6" 4 or 5 weight Classic Trout (CT). The rod has a very easy going feel to it. I had to back my stroke down a lot to feel adjusted to it. Cliff wrote a review on the 8'6" 5 weight CT. You may want to read it. Most shops will sell the CT for $129.95.
Because of the different types of fish that your friend will be targeting, a 5 weight might be a better option for him. It will help him deliver poppers and other larger flies better.
I mostly fish with vintage glass in fresh water and the lack of a warranty is not something that should worry you. Fiberglass rods are a lot tougher than graphite, and most vintage rods are fairly cheap.
My top of the line, late 1950's Phillipson Royal was only $30 from a dealer
I, too, was going to suggest the Eagle Claw Featherweight. Nifty little rod!
Another suggestion might be, Mud Hole has Lamiglass rods and blanks for well under $100. Love, love, love my Lamiglass! Will use it over the Hardy most any day! (Not just a figure of speech ... I have a few Hardy glass rods ... and the Lamiglass is just a heck of a lot of fun!!)
They have those Eagleclaw Featherweights at W*lmart
For some reason just the 7' 5wt and not the 6'6" 4wt.
I bought one a couple of years ago. They have a stiff butt and a soft tip due to the butt over tip ferrule construction. Still worth the 20 bucks though.
I also have an early (pre- Eagleclaw) Wright&McGill 6'6" Featherweight with a sliding band reel seat and brass ferrules. I can't imagine that it was any more expensive than the modern version but it's one of my favorite rods. It loads with only a foot of 4wt line out of the tip-top.
As for the Lamiglass.... My father built me one back in 1972. My first "good" trout rod. If they're still the same, that rod would be too slow for most folks. I love mine though and still fish it regularly after all these years
The 8.5' 5wt CT is indeed a fine fit for what you're describing, and I agree that a 5wt does deliver poppers and such much better than lighter line weights. In fact I contemplated fishing my 4wt on my 5wt CT this wknd, but I don't think it would deliver poppers well enough. (A GPX prolly would, but I've got the mastery trout line)
I'm curious about the cabelas glass rods, but I'll pass on the 4wt if they only offer it a 6'6" length. That's just too short in my book, YMMV.
A 7.5' 4wt lami honey would likely do nicely, and you could probably have one built up nicely by an experienced builder for $180 or so.
I hope I'm not breaking any rules, but here's a glass kit for sale cheap: CLICK HERE It won't last too long, so jump if you want it. I thought about going for it, but hate the reel seat. You can change them, but......
Thanks for all the help guys. Had him "test drive" a glass eagle claw this evening. Looks like he will be going with a graphite rod after all. Probaly a Sage Vantage. Ill let you all know for sure though, as he also like a couple of Cableas rods. I really want him to try a L.L Bean double L, but there are none around us.