Originally Posted by Jose
. I've always wondered about knot strength in terms of turns to strength ratio, because I was told "Not so many turns" by the man that introduced me to fly fishing, and your data seems to support that idea as well, given that a 4 turn improved clinch wet, dry, fast, or slow holds better than any 7 turn clinch. But then again, the strength may be in the knot design and not number of turns here, right? .
Knot strength is all about 'slippage'
Any knot that slips, breaks
For a regular clinch knot, the number of turns you make depends on the diameter and stiffness of the material. It might take as many as 7, or it might be as few as 3.
It's what ever it takes to get the knot to seat correctly and not slip.
With the improved clinch, once you make the 'improvement', the more turns you have made, the harder it is for the knot to draw tight.
It's been said that you should always use the knots that you have most confidence in. In other words, if you tie a knot well, that's the one you should use. A poorly tied high percentage knot will not perform as well as a well tied lower percentage knot
I've never liked the 'improved clinch' myself, because it doesn't always seat right.
I'm a fan of the regular clinch because I let the material tell me how many turns to take and for me it always draws up tight.
I'm always on the look out for a new knot
I sat here for 20 minutes the other day with a spool of mono trying to tie your 'Green's loop"
I didn't get it
I'm not sure 'overhand loop' means the same to me as it does to you.
Could you describe your loop knot again?