The North American Fly Fishing Forum


Go Back   The North American Fly Fishing Forum > General Fly Fishing Discussion > General Discussion

General Discussion General discussions regarding fly fishing as a whole. Ask questions. Get answers...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 12-08-2010, 03:32 PM
fishalong's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Bozeman Montana
Posts: 63
fishalong is a glorious beacon of lightfishalong is a glorious beacon of lightfishalong is a glorious beacon of lightfishalong is a glorious beacon of lightfishalong is a glorious beacon of light
Default Golden Trout

How rare are they? I catch them all the time in the higher elevations of Montana, no one ever knows what I'm talking about when I mention them though.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 12-08-2010, 04:28 PM
cattech89's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Central WV
Posts: 866
cattech89 is a name known to allcattech89 is a name known to allcattech89 is a name known to allcattech89 is a name known to allcattech89 is a name known to allcattech89 is a name known to all
Default Re: Golden Trout

I know exactly what youre talking about. There are several rivers where the WVDNR stock quite a few golden. Since they are so visible and as a result are flogged by bait chuckers, they can be quite tricky to catch during certain times of the year.
Got any Pics? Id love to see how large they get out there.
__________________
Seth

It's not what I catch when I'm fishing, it's what I lose that matters to me...
----------------------------------------
Good decisions come from experience...Experience comes from bad decisions...
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 12-08-2010, 04:31 PM
ant's Avatar
ant ant is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Berks, PA
Posts: 936
Blog Entries: 1
ant is a splendid one to beholdant is a splendid one to beholdant is a splendid one to beholdant is a splendid one to beholdant is a splendid one to beholdant is a splendid one to beholdant is a splendid one to behold
Default Re: Golden Trout

There's one in a stream near here. He's in the stretch of stream that is on the local museum's property, oddly enough. I'm not sure how happy they would be seeing someone fishing in the garden, so I've left him be.
__________________
Anthony Laurence
www.anthonylaurence.net
Web Developement and Design
FlyFishinado - My Fly Fishing Blog
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 12-08-2010, 05:33 PM
kglissmeyer1's Avatar
Senior Member

 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Rigby, ID
Posts: 1,333
Blog Entries: 1
kglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Golden Trout

There is a (seemingly) common misconception that yellow-colored trout are "Golden" Trout. I guess it's an easy mistake to make, but I wouldn't disrespect the pure Golden Trout found in high lakes and streams with the hatchery hybrids of a Rainbow Trout that are yellow in coloration (we call them "Banana Trout").

Here are some pics to help with the identification:

These are true Golden Trout, native to California, as well as some other remote places:
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.

These are Non-Golden Trout, not native to any waters as they are hatchery bred and planted in your local waters for put-and-take harvest:
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.

Here is my first Banana Trout, which I caught this summer in a local pond:
Click the image to open in full size.

Kelly.
__________________
I fish, therefore I am - but I gotta go to work first..."piscari ergo sum"
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 12-08-2010, 09:01 PM
cattech89's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Central WV
Posts: 866
cattech89 is a name known to allcattech89 is a name known to allcattech89 is a name known to allcattech89 is a name known to allcattech89 is a name known to allcattech89 is a name known to all
Default Re: Golden Trout

That is really interesting Kelly. Thanks for the clarification.
Here is the description from WV DNR website. I found it interesting that it mentions that WV golden trout are NOT true golden trout.



Family: Salmonidae

Common Family: The Trout Family

Common Name: Golden Rainbow Trout

Scientific Name: Oncorhynchus mykiss, color variant

Identification:

Golden rainbow trout are a deep gold or yellow in body color, with pinkish lower fins, pink or red-tones on their cheeks and a reddish lateral stripe. There is no spotting on the body.

Range and Habitat:

The West Virginia Centennial golden trout was developed in West Virginia as a color mutation of rainbow trout in 1963. Several other states in the eastern portion of North America have developed a golden rainbow trout in a similar manner. This should not to be confused with the true golden trout, Oncorhynchus aguabonita, which is found only in California. Golden rainbow trout can be found in most of the larger waters of the state that receive trout stockings.

Fishing Facts:

Most anglers find the golden rainbow trout difficult to catch. Golden rainbow trout are very calm fish, many times ignoring attempts to entice them to bite. The bright golden color makes their presence more obvious, drawing more angler attention. When one considers that fewer golden rainbow trout are stocked, representing about 5 % of the total amount, then one can see that the angling of a golden rainbow trout can be a unique experience.
__________________
Seth

It's not what I catch when I'm fishing, it's what I lose that matters to me...
----------------------------------------
Good decisions come from experience...Experience comes from bad decisions...
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 12-08-2010, 09:05 PM
jcw355's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 813
jcw355 is just really nicejcw355 is just really nicejcw355 is just really nicejcw355 is just really nice
Default Re: Golden Trout

I knew what you were talking about. I think people just call them Golden because they are gold colored. I saw a few of those" Golden trout" this past friday here in Oklahoma at the Lower Mountain Fork River.
__________________
Okiemountaineer
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 12-08-2010, 10:09 PM
milt spawn's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Slab City, CA
Posts: 2,533
Blog Entries: 1
milt spawn has a reputation beyond reputemilt spawn has a reputation beyond reputemilt spawn has a reputation beyond reputemilt spawn has a reputation beyond reputemilt spawn has a reputation beyond reputemilt spawn has a reputation beyond reputemilt spawn has a reputation beyond reputemilt spawn has a reputation beyond reputemilt spawn has a reputation beyond reputemilt spawn has a reputation beyond reputemilt spawn has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Golden Trout

They dump these frankenfish in some ceement ponds out here and call them "Lightning Trout" so as not to slander the real Golden Trout. They are triploid and thankfully unable to reproduce, and only stocked in certain places by private enterprises. milt.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 12-09-2010, 07:33 AM
HuronRiverDan's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Monroe, Michigan
Posts: 2,584
HuronRiverDan has a brilliant futureHuronRiverDan has a brilliant futureHuronRiverDan has a brilliant futureHuronRiverDan has a brilliant futureHuronRiverDan has a brilliant futureHuronRiverDan has a brilliant futureHuronRiverDan has a brilliant futureHuronRiverDan has a brilliant futureHuronRiverDan has a brilliant futureHuronRiverDan has a brilliant futureHuronRiverDan has a brilliant future
Send a message via Yahoo to HuronRiverDan
Default Re: Golden Trout

We always called the yellow variants Palominos...

Dan
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 12-09-2010, 09:31 AM
kglissmeyer1's Avatar
Senior Member

 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Rigby, ID
Posts: 1,333
Blog Entries: 1
kglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond reputekglissmeyer1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Golden Trout

Sounds like these bad boys are all over the place. When I say "we" call them banana trout, I mean myself and those I fish with. The Idaho DWR dumped about 10,000 of them in my favorite new stillwater destination where we caught hog rainbows and some really good brookies. The ones they planted were about 10-inches long, and their size, combined with the color reminded us of swimming bananas. Because of their triploid nature, as well as their inability to reproduce, they claim they will grow to massive sizes, extremely fast, so, perhaps next season they will be competing with the bows , such is life.

Kelly.
__________________
I fish, therefore I am - but I gotta go to work first..."piscari ergo sum"
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 12-09-2010, 10:17 AM
Frank Whiton's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 5,301
Frank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond reputeFrank Whiton has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to Frank Whiton
Default Re: Golden Trout

Hi Everyone,

I use to catch California Golden Trout in the high Sierras. I had one spot that was about a three/four hour hike from the trail head. This spot was at a falls and above the falls were pure Golden's and below the falls a mix of Golden and Hybrids. The Kern River drainage was the home of Golden Trout but my fish were North of there. This was in the fifties and I hope they are still there. It is unfortunate that Rainbows have been planted in the wrong places and California Golden Trout are now endangered. Here is an article with some good information.

The Golden Trout in the Wyoming high mountains are imports from California and are true Golden Trout except for the hybrids.

Frank
__________________
Click the image to open in full size.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Three Trout Fishing Golden Rules - by Dan Fallon Fish Bones Coldwater Articles 10 08-26-2013 03:48 PM
Golden Trout Big Horn Mountains, Wyoming carter Rocky Mountain Range 10 07-14-2011 06:47 PM
Golden Trout Fisning in the Winds of Wyoming nhflycaster Coldwater Fly Fishing 6 03-26-2010 03:52 AM
Wyoming Golden Trout Trout Lady Member Introductions 1 07-15-2008 06:23 PM













All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:26 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
2005-2014 The North American Fly Fishing Forum. All rights reserved.