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Old 02-22-2009, 05:04 PM
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Question hey and a quick question

hey my names jack and i live in texas

i have an old shakespeare combo that ive used for a while. id like to get a nicer setup and star fishing a lot more often though. i was thinkin of gettin everything at orvis since theres one closeby and their products are supposed to be good quality (i think). i want to be able to catch some bass with this, so i was thinking of the BBSIII with a 7/8 wt rod, maybe from their clearwater line of rods.

i was talking to the guy at the store the other day and he mentioned that this setup would be a good choice because i could double it for use in the bay for like redfish and stuff. is this a good idea? im a full time student, dont have a ton of money to spend so i was looking forward to this if its possible. if i got with the above mentioned setup and plan to use for fishing in ponds/lakes for bass and the bay or something, should i still get bass line or something else?

also, if i get a setup for bass, will i still be able to throw tiny poppers for bluegill? i was assuming i would, it just wouldn't be as fun since it wouldn't be as big of a fight.

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Old 02-22-2009, 07:10 PM
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Hey Jack,
Welcome to the board man.
The orvis clearwater rods are great I own one in a 9' 8t I use it for bass and striper. The 7 wt would be a little big for bluegill but as you say the main the is the fight wont be as fun, but it would be a much better choice for bass and reds. I would go heavy for the bluegill then I would go lighter for bass and stuff.
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: hey and a quick question

I have a 9' 5wt. Clearwater II Mid. Flex 7.0 I really like.
I am going to change out the Orvis Wonderline to a Rio Windcutter.
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Old 02-22-2009, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: hey and a quick question

One thing about fishing tackle, the more you spend, the better quality your going to get. Better to get a good rod (which you will eventually) and save all that money on cheeper rods that you will replace on your way to a good rod.

The better rods have a replacement guarentee if you break it. I just sent off my 5th rod in the last 2 years to be fixed. (Electric windows, car doors, and steped on when someone laid them in the bottom of the boat)
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Hey Jack, welcome to the board.

I agree with Stan.. to a point… but if you’re a student on a limited budget, I think you have a good plan with the Orvis gear, and you’ll likely see an improvement over the Shakespeare rod you have now. The Orvis gear would be a fine choice, except I’d go with the BBS IV (for line weights 7-9). The BBS III will be a bit small (for line weights 5-7).

And as others have said the Clearwater is a fine rod. I think either a 7 or 8 weight would be fine for bass, but would tend to lean towards the 8 if you were going to do SW too with it (because of wind) and it will let you throw larger flies, weighted stuff, bass bugs and poppers a tad easier than a 7 weight, but either way, a 7 or 8 would be great. Just hose everything down in FW after trips to the salt. Even though the rod and reel are designed to fish in SW it’s always a good idea with any gear since salt is tough on equipment.

The good thing about Orvis is that they stand behind their gear, so if you have a problem with any of it, they’ll treat you right.
You should have a blast with it, and I thought everything is supposed to be big in Texas, even the bluegills… I saw one of those humongous “everything is bigger in Texas” fly swatters you have down there in a souvenir shop and the flap thing was like 2 feet across…

But if you decide to get a lighter outfit for panfish down the road you could go for a less expensive reel like the Clearwater (about 40 bucks). It should be fine for that.

Good luck, and keep asking questions if you've got 'em.

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Old 02-22-2009, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: hey and a quick question

thanks for the help guys. ya i guess my better bet would be the BBS IV on a 8wt clearwater rod. the guy at orvis mentioned a new rod line called streamline. he recommended it for what im looking for but its not in their magazine, i think its only online so far. i could stick with my shakespeare or even bump down in size but up in quality with like a 3 or 4 wt rig from orvis later on for panfish. the orvis magazine advertises the 25 yr guaruntee on the clearwaterII series, but i thought the orvis guy told me the clearwater series was cheaper because it didn't have a guarantee like the helios line. can anyone clear this up for me?

and ya we get some pretty big bluegills down here man. on light tackle they sure put up a heck of a fight. cant beat perch jerkin with a fresh cut cane pole in the river bottoms when your catchin big bluegill :-)

so if i go with the 8-wt clearwater II/BBSIV combo, what line should i put on it for the kind of fishing im wanting to do with it?
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Old 02-23-2009, 03:34 PM
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im guessing i should just go with the bass line from orvis for this set up. then get an extra spool for my reel and put saltwater line on it?
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Old 02-24-2009, 07:00 AM
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Default Re: hey and a quick question

ended up going with the clearwaterII 8-wt tip flex and a BBSIV. put bass line on it.

the guy told me i could do some bay fishing with the bass line so ill just keep that on there.
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Sounds like a ya got a good one
And yes them big gills are a ball aint they
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Congrats, sounds like you have a great outfit. You shouls have a blast.

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