Originally Posted by tie one on
I have been fly fishing for at least 40+ years & I've always used the "standard" type of fly rod. You know my 9' 4wt Sage FLi for trout, a
T/T 10' 7wt steelhead rod, etc. Lately, I have been reading/researching
about spey rods.
1* How tough are they to learn ? Is it a one day learning event, especially for those with years of fly fishing experience ?
2* If you've bought one, do you use it more or less than the "standard" ?
3* Have you found the equipment basically the same price ranges as "standard" ?
4* Is it a necessary thing to use one specifically on just huge rivers ?
5* What's the best length to buy for a good steelhead/salmon outfit ?
6* Does the longer rod make fighting BIG fish easier ?
Looking for a few thoughts from any of you,
Tie One On
1) They take some practice. You do not even need a spey rod to learn how to spey fish, I know how to spey and use spey casts on one handed rods all the time. You say you are a long time fly fisheman? That helps us about as much as saying you are a long time golfer: you might have played golf for 40 years and have a handicap of 2 or 30!! Big difference. If you have been fly fishing a long time I assume you can roll can 40 feet over both shoulders? If so you should be able to learn spey casting fairly fast. You will need to practice since you will have to use different power getting the fly from the dangle to the anchor point at 40 feet or 80 feet.
2) If I am making casts over 40 feet yes. Under that you can just use a single handed rod to do the spey casts (and have your fly in the water more time and thus have better chances to catch fish
3) Spey is absolutely more expensive, from the rods, to the reels, to the lines, to spey flies.
4) like I already mentioned you can use spey casts on a small creek to quickly get your fly from the dangle to where you want it with a one handed rod. For a river 40 -60 feet wide you might want to consider a switch rod or a 12.6 foot rod, and go up from there.
5) a good length? You havent even told us what rivers you are going to fish and how big they are?? You are from the grea lakes area, so assuming you are fishing small rivers a 7 through 9 weight switch or 12.6 would be good.
6) I find it to be a disadvantage. I was fishing a 6/7 weight spey rod and have a fresh chromer on, 28 inches, and I felt overgunned. Was too easy and not as much fun. Once you get the fish in close it is the opposite, you have to either
1) have someone net the fish for you
2) beach it (not good for the fish)
3) dip your rod back,grab your fly line, and tug the fish in. With a 30 -40 pound king salmon this can be a unpleasant experience if it tries to make a last minute dash.