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Old 02-01-2011, 01:22 AM
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i'm having trouble detemining the butt section of my leaders. i think in may be going too heavy.


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i'm having trouble detemining the butt section of my leaders. i think in may be going too heavy.


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Assuming it is fair of me to guess salmon....
I am running mono the length of my arm from my elbow crease to the base of my fingers. Tied with a nail knot on the flyline and a perfection loop to the leader.

Kings and silvers 25-30lb
Reds and the rest 12-17lb
game fish 6-10lb

As for going to heavy, I use a heavier butt section because I want my leader to be the failure point and not the butt section. While I pride myself on the quality of my nail knots, I would much rather throw a quick perfection loop for a quick leader change than having to rig up from the fly line.

Leaders are probably for another thread...
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Default Re: i like big butts

Regardless of the diameter or the pound test of the leader butt, the most important factor should be that it be of the same flexibility as the tip section of the line. This minimizes "hinging"

The total length of the butt can vary depending on what you need it to do. Anywhere from 40% to 70% of the total leader, dependent on purpose, fly size, wind, etc
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I tie my atlantic salmon leaders completely out of Maxima Chameleon (the brown stuff). Most of my camp partners use the same. I use 36 inches of 25lb (.020") for the butt section of my 6 and 8 pound tippet leaders, which are all I use for summer and fall atlantic fishing. They are 9 foot total length leaders.
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Default Re: i like big butts

for trout, dry fly fishing, I like Maxima 20lb butt section, 2 feet, or something or just match the diameter of the butt section to my 9 1/2 foot 4x leader. If its the same diameter it works, you don't want your butt section to be smaller in diameter than the leader, that will make your leader land wierd and get bad loops
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Trout:
fly line w/ welded loop-> tapered leader.

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35 lbs maxima butt section 3 ft long perfection looped to fly line

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