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Old 03-22-2011, 11:54 AM
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Default #1 Micro-Barb Saddle for Dries; Good enough?

Hope to get a quick and experienced answer about this. I picked up a METZ #1 Micro-Barb grizzly saddle for $15, pretty good deal these days. The package says it is for dry flies, but I am suspicious. I know fly fisherman don't usually have opinions , but please dig deep and let me know what you think. It is very convenient because of the length of the feathers. My other grizzly dry is good but the feathers for stimulators, or big stoneflies are often shorter than I'd like. So far I've put it on some foam Stoneflies, but dont' know if I should trust it for a typical mayfly pattern.

Is it great, good enough, or insufficient for dry fly use?
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Old 03-22-2011, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: #1 Micro-Barb Saddle for Dries; Good enough?

15$ is a great deal! Yes it's good enough. However as you've probably noticed you are limited on the size of flies you'll be able to tie with it, but on the other hand you'll get many flies out of a single hackle.
You can also take a few hackles and dye them to suit other needs.

If they have any others I'd go back and get what you can, especially with the "hair Craze" going on using this type of hackle.
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Default Re: #1 Micro-Barb Saddle for Dries; Good enough?

Thanks fysh, now that you said I should dye some of them I'm thinking of a super pattern that I bought a few years ago and have never tied because I didn't want to pony-up for the red-dyed grizzly. Black elk hair caddis with a small grizzly-dyed-red palmered up the body. I bought 5 of them and the fish absolutely destroyed them. The red must have been an additional attractor for them.

Sorry, none left. It was an e-bay deal a couple of months back; seemed to be at least half price of any place on the web even after shipping.
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Default Re: #1 Micro-Barb Saddle for Dries; Good enough?

The only negatives about these are they tend to be mostly a single size, or a narrow range of sizes on a saddle AND the stems sometimes twist when you're wrapping them, which can be rather frustrating.
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The only negatives about these are they tend to be mostly a single size, or a narrow range of sizes on a saddle AND the stems sometimes twist when you're wrapping them, which can be rather frustrating.
I tied a dozen foam bodied black stones today and found that happening a couple of times. It was hard to get it oriented around the hook the right way and I had to scrap the feather on two of them and restart the hackle.
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Default Re: #1 Micro-Barb Saddle for Dries; Good enough?

Ausable-

sounds like some grizzly feathers and some sugar free KoolAid might be in order to tie up some of those caddis: here's a link to wovenstone's excellent recent post:
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sounds like some grizzly feathers and some sugar free KoolAid might be in order to tie up some of those caddis: here's a link to wovenstone's excellent recent post:
Dying feathers, the magic of Kool-aid
That's exactly what I was thinking of! I read that thread a couple of days ago and wondered if I would ever need to dye feathers...Wonder what my wife's gonna say when I put "raspberry kool-aid" on the shopping list for this week.
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Wonder what my wife's gonna say when I put "raspberry kool-aid" on the shopping list for this week.
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I tied a dozen foam bodied black stones today and found that happening a couple of times. It was hard to get it oriented around the hook the right way and I had to scrap the feather on two of them and restart the hackle.
You might want to try a pair of the rotating hackle pliers. They won't prevent the hackle from twisting, but can make the work of untwisting a hackle easier.
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I tied a dozen foam bodied black stones today and found that happening a couple of times. It was hard to get it oriented around the hook the right way and I had to scrap the feather on two of them and restart the hackle.
SOMETIMES you can avoid this by tying in the hackle by the tip rather than the butt, where the stem is smaller. I'd also assume if you're using a rotary vise, you could hold the stem out really tight at a right angle to the hook, then rotate the vise to apply the hackle- that might make it twist less (?)
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