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Old 02-05-2010, 10:14 PM
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For many new tyers and lots of experienced tyers, folding hackle is a pain in the butt.
I am a late learner and a slow one at that, but a friend sent me this and I finally understood what I was supposed to be doing and how to do it properly.
Hope this helps someone.
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Default Re: Folding hackle

Kerry,

I almost never watch videos but I did take a look at this. It will help some people to get a better looking wet fly. I have my own style but this guy should be commended for sharing his. Good post
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Kerry: Very good tip, thanks for sharing!

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Default Re: Folding hackle

Kerry, thanks for that one!

I'm new to Salmon Flies, in general, so this is a really nice tip for me.

I tie mine in with the same tip-clip that he uses, but then I fold mine between the thumb and forefinger while it's on the hook (a lot of people that I've talked to, particularly those who have been tying Salmon Flies for awhile, say that you should fold the hackle before putting it on the hook). I've noticed that when you fold hackle, if you pinch it between your thumb and forefinger down close to the stem (rachis), you get a better fold and one that doesn't tend to re-shape itself back to the original barb position. So, my conclusion from that was that the pinch is actually fracturing the barb and that it's that fracture that causes the fold to stay where you want it.

The use of the scissors tends to reinforce that thinking for me, since I would think that the scissor blade probably puts a small slice in the barbs, which would also set them in the folded-back position.

Great tip! I'll bet Greenwood would like to see this one; with all the soft hackles that he ties up. I'll PM him about your thread.

I guess I know what I'll be trying out this morning!

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That helped me Kerry. Thank you.
That would make a nice "how to".........sticky for the forum.
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I am glad it has helped someone here. For me folding was always a mystery because I don't think I learn from text very well. Visual aids certainly work for me and I hope for others as well. I know that running my spey hackle surely became easier and I am posting a comment to that effect for this fellow.
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Cool tip. I've never seen the scissors thing before. I will have to give it a try.
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I had heard of it but never actually figured out how to do it by reading the description. I had to watch it twice to get it right anyway. He runs the scissors up against the natural bend. I did not use the blade, rather the sharper edge of the closed blades. Good luck with it....Kerry
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Default Re: Folding hackle

An interesting video, certainly shows how to do it using the scissors.
I find that what works well for me is to tie in the hackle stem, apply a quantity of saliva & then fold back the hackle to the required angle, wrap it. When in dries out you have a hackle tied in a nice slope.

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