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drnihili 03-13-2010 01:57 AM

Wooly Bugger vs Wooly Worm
 
What's the difference? The book I'm using, The Art of Fly Tying has the Bugger with a Marabou tail and the Worm with hackle. I cheated and substituted some Krystal Flash (I think that's what it is) for the hackle.

Is there a standard understood difference? I had used the terms interchangeably before this and tied whatever tail seemed handy at the time. Now I'm wondering. How many woolies are there?

GeorgeMcFly 03-13-2010 03:17 AM

Re: Wooly Bugger vs Wooly Worm
 
thats the only difference but wooly bugger is way better in my opinion but then again never used the worm much. Buggers can be stripped like a streamer pattern, and the marabou breaths and pulsates in the water. can also be dead drifted under a indicator and so forth and represent alot of stuff that lives underwater. white buggers can be a minnow, black a leech or hellegramite, brown a crayfish and olive works good too if its a fish or craw I don't know but it does work. wooley bugger are the all around versatile fly. heres a pic of my fav bugger! its black beadhead, black "woolybugger" chenille, black marabou tail, black chinese strung hackle palmeredup the body and some pearl krystal flash. catches alot of steelies, bass, gills and catfish and sucker fish and carp and prolly anything else too!!
I have the same book you got I believe? was bought from gander mountain for a x-mas present
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...9/SNV34914.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...9/SNV34913.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...9/SNV34592.jpg

Kerry Pitt 03-13-2010 05:12 AM

Re: Wooly Bugger vs Wooly Worm
 
Yep the tail is the difference, but that being said, often the presentation is going to be different.
The WB is a streamer pattern and the WW is a nymph pattern. I like doing the WW body in a crystal chenille and instead of the traditional orange or red tag, I use a very short bit of marabou, more of a "tag" then a couple of strands of crystal flash tied longer than the tag. It is sort of a WB but with almost no tail. Put a peacock herl shell over the whole thing and I think you have something you guys call a "Crackle Back?" I first saw that done with a Whitlock's woolly Worm, which was a yellow chenille body, peacock herl back, grizzly hackle and either an orang or red tag, or no tag at all.

Flyfisher for men 03-13-2010 02:54 PM

Re: Wooly Bugger vs Wooly Worm
 
Yep, that's a crackleback in its traditional form, though people have branched out in terms of color.

Woolly worms are good flies and have been around for ages. I've noticed bluegills hit them readily. Also easy to tie.

Pocono 03-13-2010 09:44 PM

Re: Woolly Bugger vs Woolly Worm
 
I also hackle the two differently; for me with WBs it's hackle fibers pointing back toward the tail, for WWs; particularly something like a small WW pattern, Griffith's Gnat, for example, it's hackle fibers pointing forward. I've found that a lot of WB/WW patterns are interchangeable. As Terry says, the choice of tail/tailess, depends on how you want to fish them; streamer or nymph. Personally, I agree with George, the WBs are more productive for me, too.

Pocono

drnihili 03-13-2010 10:44 PM

Re: Wooly Bugger vs Wooly Worm
 
How much does choice of color matter for a WB? For example, a recipe calls for yellow chenille, black hackle, and red marabou. It seems to me substiting a brown hackle should be ok. This is clearly an attractor, not an imitator. Is this right?


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