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Old 01-10-2012, 03:33 PM
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Default Hackle for Royal Coachman ?

Do you use soft or dry fly hackle for the royal coachman, it looks to me that it is a stiffer hackle than a soft would be but I can not find anything that definitively states this.
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Default Re: Hackle for Royal Coachman ?

What are you tying? That pattern can be dressed as a wet fly, or as a dry fly.

I've used & would use genetic dry fly hackle for the dry version, and hen hackle for the wet.

Coachman brown is the color used on both, but most any darker red/brown hackle could be used.
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Default Re: Hackle for Royal Coachman ?

Sorry, of course. I'm tying a wet with the duck quil wings like this one;
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Default Re: Hackle for Royal Coachman ?

Then I think you're looking for a hen neck or "wet" saddle hackle.
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Default Re: Hackle for Royal Coachman ?

You can use whatever brown hackles you have on hand, the stuff in the photo looks like Indian Rooster cape hackle. When I make that fly or similar I collar the hackle then pull & tie it down into a beard style. My hackles are generally longer than in the picture unless I'm tying the fly to show the traditional dressing.

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Default Re: Hackle for Royal Coachman ?

Agree with Ard...so no use spending a lot of money...a cheap indian rooster cape will do
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Default Re: Hackle for Royal Coachman ?

Thanks all for clearing that up for me. Ard when you say you pull it down into the beard style, do you do that as to eliminate the hackle from sticking up through the wings.
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Default Re: Hackle for Royal Coachman ?

I realize this thread is very old, but I have been tying a few coachman wets and had a couple questions.

Are they traditionally tied on a standard length hook or a 2XL?

Does anyone weight them at all? I have not, and intended to fish them like a partridge and orange or similar style wet. If somebody has weighted them with success I'd try that too.

The colors are perfect for my water and I intend to get a few versions wet tomorrow.
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Default Re: Hackle for Royal Coachman ?

Standard wet fly hook Dewayne, I don't have any handy to give numbers but I always used Mustad Wet Fly Hooks. Weight was something I didn't do, generally standard wets are not fished to great depths but can be used as a tandem with a sink tip line for more reach.
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Default Re: Hackle for Royal Coachman ?

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I realize this thread is very old, but I have been tying a few coachman wets and had a couple questions.

Are they traditionally tied on a standard length hook or a 2XL?

Does anyone weight them at all? I have not, and intended to fish them like a partridge and orange or similar style wet. If somebody has weighted them with success I'd try that too.

The colors are perfect for my water and I intend to get a few versions wet tomorrow.
Coachman, lead wing coachman or royal coachman ?

I tie mine on the Mustad 3399. That's a general purpose, standard length wet/nymph hook that I'll use for most anything that fits.
I wrap lead on the front half of the shaft most every time.

I grew up using the traditional winged wets. That's the way my grandfather fished.
People might be surprised how well the work.
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