Hi, I'm having a lot of success with smaller "partridge and orange" flies I bought from fly shack a while back. Now that I'm tying, I'm looking into tying these up because bluegill, bass, and one catfish really hit these around here . Plus, I'm a big fan of carrying flies that I can almost be sure to have a chance to catch something, no matter where I go.
I read that silk is traditional, but sucks to work with....and I *just got to where I can tie a sawyers PT nymph that looks "okay"....so I'm definitely not a good tyer. Keeping that copper wire tight to avoid abdomen and thorax shifting was my toughest part.
What type of body material would you recommend? floss? 4-strand floss? Some kind of heavy orange regular thread?
Thanks - you guys are great! I've learned more on this website in 3 months than I did in 4 years of college and everything before then. Plus, all of that information was thoroughly useless. Fly fishing is the only thing I'm interested in learned and retaining now .
I recently did these wet flies. Cowdung (Left), Partridge and Orange (Back) Snipe and Yellow (Front)
For the P&O i used rust danville flymaster+ as it was the only 'orange' thread i had. i was good for building up the bodies, but for the heads it was too thick. Just use regular flymaster (with the gold label, the "+" has a silver label)
You can definitely use thread, just untwist it as you tie to build up a nice taper to the body. They're not expensive flies to tie, so no worried if a few get all raggedy.
IF you decide to use floss, danville rayon is the way to go, either 4 strand or two strand spools, but these flies are so small (the ones above are size 12 or 14 i think) you only need to use one strand of floss from the spool.
Hope this helps.
p.s. if you like this kind of fly, you should check out EJ Malone -Trout and Salmon flies of Ireland, there is many patterns like this in it. Also Trout flies of Ireland, Trout Flies of Wales, and some other titles like that will furnish you will enough patterns to last a lifetime. All older patterns, but all very much as effective as yesteryear.
If so, I believe the one in the picture has a body made with a single strand of wool yarn that I roughed up a bit. You can make a body for a wet fly out of anything basically. They do catch fish, the hook is a Mustad 80050BR size 8 I use large flies here.
Nice flies s fontinails……I have been tying a soft hackle similar to your Partridge & Orange fly.
Instead of using partridge I have been using cool-aid dyed mallard flank feathers (Dyed with Cherry color cool-aid) they have been producing some really nice browns, rainbows and brook trout for the last couple months for me. The only problem using the mallard flank feather you have to cut sections of the feather then tie them in separately in order to get the correct length per hook size.
Hook: #14 to #16
Thread: Red - Uni 8/0
Body / Thorax: Tan rabbit dubbing
Hackle: Mallard flank feather dyed light red.
Head: Whip finished with Red-Uni thread
I always thought Uni was just a Brand name meaning single strand.
I would say you’re correct, according to Uni Products this is their write-up:
8/0 UNI-Thread is the favorite fine fly-tying thread of fly –tiers all over the world. Noted for being exceedingly strong for its diameter. 8/0 UNI-Thread is made of continuous polyester filaments, slightly bonded, which ties flat on the hook and comes wax or unwaxed
[QUOTE=turbineblade;506531]Awesome responses as always! Pretty flies too. I actually have orange, wool yarn (just craft store, 100% wool stuff) that I think would work fine. I'll give that a try .
The nice thing about wool/synthetic wool is it takes color from markers well. If you have white or a light color and a set of Sharpies you can have any color you want.
Sock yarn is also a good source for long, thin continuous fibers that wind into small, nicely tapered bodies.